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Backlash Grows Over Mandatory STD Shots
Express-News Austin Bureau ^ | 02/06/07 | Janet Elliott

Posted on 02/06/2007 8:45:52 AM PST by Froufrou

Gov. Rick Perry stood firm Monday against a political firestorm ignited by his order that sixth-grade girls be inoculated against a sexually transmitted disease that can cause cervical cancer.

Social conservatives from Austin to Washington joined some state lawmakers in calling for Perry to reverse his executive order making Texas the first state to mandate the human papillomavirus vaccine for girls entering sixth grade in September 2008.

Several legislators expressed outrage that Perry circumvented the legislative process. Several bills had been filed to make the HPV shots mandatory for school enrollment.

"This needs closer examination. How much will it cost the state?" Senate Health and Human Services Committee Chairman Jane Nelson, R-Lewisville, said at a news conference.

"Most importantly, as a mother of four daughters I want to make sure our daughters' health is protected and parental rights are preserved."

Another senator, Glenn Hegar, R-Katy, said he'd file legislation to reverse Perry's order, which he said was not in the best interest of the state.

Parents will be able to opt their 11- and 12-year-old daughters out of the program, as they can for other required vaccines.

As speculation swirled about why Perry risked angering his conservative base, political observers said the governor is showing newfound independence and may be trying to raise his national profile as a potential vice presidential candidate.

The governor's spokesman also indicated that first lady Anita Perry's strong support for the vaccine might have played a role in the decision. A former nurse and the daughter of a doctor, Anita Perry works for an organization dealing with sexual assaults.

"I know they have discussed it, and it's something they both feel very strongly about," the spokesman, Robert Black, said.

In a statement, Perry addressed criticism that the vaccine could send a message that teenage sex is permissible.

"Providing the HPV vaccine doesn't promote sexual promiscuity any more than providing the Hepatitis B vaccine promotes drug use," he said.

"If the medical community developed a vaccine for lung cancer, would the same critics oppose it claiming it would encourage smoking?"

Perry's office said it would cost the state $29 million for its share of inoculating students who are uninsured or on government health programs. Federal funds also will be available for children on Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Program.

Federal health authorities last year recommended girls and young women get the vaccine, which prevents infection by four common strains of the HPV virus, which can cause cervical cancer years after infection.

Cervical cancer accounts for 3,700 deaths a year in the United States, including nearly 400 in Texas.

House Ways and Means Chairman Jim Keffer, R-Eastland, said he supports the vaccine but noted that other state legislatures have decided not to make it mandatory.

"What kind of deal was made?" asked Keffer, referring to comments by Cathie Adams, president of Texas Eagle Forum, that Perry's political ties with drug company Merck may have influenced the decision.

Perry's office has denied he was influenced by anything other than health concerns. His ex-chief of staff, Mike Toomey, is a lobbyist for Merck and Perry got $6,000 in contributions from the drug manufacturer's political action committee.

Black said Perry and Toomey never discussed the issue, and noted the Merck campaign contributions were relatively small.

"The governor is very pro-life, and he views this as protecting life," Black said. "The human race has never had an opportunity to prevent cancer. Not to pursue that opportunity, the governor believes that would be morally reprehensible."

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and House Speaker Tom Craddick both said Perry did not consult them. Craddick said he didn't have a position on the issue. Dewhurst said he would prefer a voluntary vaccination program.

GOP consultant Royal Masset said he thinks Perry wants to be considered as a national leader. Perry talked about international terrorism and immigration reform in his inaugural address.

"Health care is one of the most powerful issues we're going to be dealing with nationally," Masset said.

Meanwhile, a Christian group knocked the Texas governor in a Washington update mailed to supporters Monday.

Tony Perkins with Family Research Council said, "By commandeering this issue, Gov. Perry, who has championed family values, has only succeeded in arousing more mistrust."


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To: MamaTexan

This is my problem. I think there are too many mandated vaccines right now. I didn't start really researching vaccines until my daughter got brain damage at 6 weeks old, and she had already had some shots (I think for hepatitis).

I'm on the online groups for parents of special needs kids, lots of them with autism. I don't necessarily think vaccines caused autism, but reading the information about vaccines that have been posted makes you really think twice about vaccines. I definitely support more long term study of the side effects of vaccines.

I also really don't think chicken pox should be a mandated vaccine. Not many children die from chicken pox. If your child is at a high risk from dying from it, then get the vaccine. One of my daughters was high risk from dying from it, so my children all got the vaccine.

Polio and measles are different. There were real epidemics of those diseases, and they caused real problems.

If there was ever another small pox epidemic, that would be something else. My daughter is high risk for having complications from that vaccine, so we have a plan to keep her from getting it unless she is exposed.

I think it has to be a pretty serious outbreak (meaning lots of people, and very serious complications) to mandate making a vaccine mandatory.


241 posted on 02/06/2007 1:50:25 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: kinoxi

If it saves one life, but then causes problems in numerous others then it proves we weren't idiots.


242 posted on 02/06/2007 1:53:38 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

Check your facts, the clock is ticking on the lives you choose to block the benefits of this from.


243 posted on 02/06/2007 1:55:32 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Caesar Soze; kinoxi; MeanWestTexan; MamaTexan

"In 1995, Merck entered into a license agreement and collaboration with CSL Limited relating to technology used in GARDASIL. GARDASIL also is the subject of other third-party licensing agreements."

Here's the part that I think I unconsciously flagged. That last sentence. Who are the "other third party" agreements with? With anything ground-breaking like this, I want as much concrete and finite data as are available.

I don't know for sure that it's NOT harmless. But I'd rather be at least more sure than I am before we risk our little girls. I don't think I'm being an alarmist, but bit and pieces I read about it and the way it's being rush-forced cause me to be...more cautious than I should be?


244 posted on 02/06/2007 1:56:37 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: kinoxi

And I respect yours. If I thought this was more about girls' health than Perry's campaign debts, I think I'd just forget about it.

Because of the sexual nature of it, there's just too many cans of worms it opens, IMHO.


245 posted on 02/06/2007 1:58:12 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

I respectfully disagree with you on this subject.


246 posted on 02/06/2007 1:59:29 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

I think it is great that this vaccine is available.

Heck, I'd even be okay with medical professionals going into high/middle schools and offer the vaccine (preferably for free if there is enough money for that).

However, I am not for making it mandatory for 11 year old girls. I think it should be the parent's choice.


247 posted on 02/06/2007 2:00:53 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: kinoxi; MeanWestTexan; Caesar Soze

And I respectfully hope that you are right and I am wrong. That would mean some good news for a change! LOL!


248 posted on 02/06/2007 2:02:26 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

;)


249 posted on 02/06/2007 2:03:36 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: MamaTexan

"Without being offensive, I doubt that was recently."

LOL. OK, my kids call me old.

Just went to called the Fannin Elementary School. There is an affidavit available from the nurse, or you can get one by faxing or emailing your request here:

http://www.dshs.state.tx.us/immunize/docs/sample_letter.doc

I also learned that, until 2003, the requests were supposed to be permanent.


250 posted on 02/06/2007 2:05:02 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Froufrou
Here's the part that I think I unconsciously flagged. That last sentence. Who are the "other third party" agreements with? With anything ground-breaking like this, I want as much concrete and finite data as are available.

Just out of curiosity, do you do the same intensive research over everything that you put into your body? How many parties were involved in the creation of every previous vaccine you've received, mandatory or voluntary? Or your preferred OTC cough syrup? Or your favorite snack food?

What can it possibly matter who the other agreements are with? That has no bearing on the safety or efficacy of a treatment. For all I know or care, Merck licensed an L5 decombobulator from the Mooninites. I don't like the Mooninites, I think they're jerks, but the end result of the L5 decombobulation works, and I'm happy.

You'll also be happy to know that Merck has won several Vioxx cases, and others have been dropped or mistried, within the last month. Perhaps this medication will soon be available again.

251 posted on 02/06/2007 2:13:02 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: kinoxi

so we eradicate the virus. Like with TB, our open borders will bring a mutated supervirus back into the country.


252 posted on 02/06/2007 2:28:02 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Sols
"I told you 8 times those aren't my numbers. You made them up or something, I don't know where you got the bull hockey. Between 10,000 and 14,000 women get invasive cervical cancer every year! 50,000 cases of cervical carcinoma in situ (localized) are diagnosed. READ THESE NUMBERS. BURN THEM IN YOUR BRAIN.

I don't need to burn anything into my brain. The forced inoculation activists (you included) keep claiming HPV related cervical cancer rates are 3,700 per year. Of that, pro " forced vaccination" advocates such as yourself- claim that this 'wonder drug' can prevent 70% of all HPV related cases.

A quick glance at this thread alone shows those are YOUR numbers, not mine.

A quick calculation reveals that 2,590 cases are what forced inoculations with Gardisol are claimed to be able to prevent. Now, where did you get "10,000 and 14,000 women get invasive cervical cancer every year! 50,000 cases of cervical carcinoma in situ (localized) are diagnosed." from? How many of these are HPV related? Why, that would be 3700, of which 70% are what forced inoculations of gardisol claims to be able to prevent.

NOWHERE are there claims of HPV related cervical cancer numbers in the 10,000-14,000 region. NOWHERE.

YOU are making this up as you go it appears. I'm just amazed at how many people who call themselves "republicans or conservatives are crying for big brother government to tell you, FORCE you to inoculate your children at PUBLIC EXPENCE!. You are all socialists, not conservatives!

If you want to take a pill or an injection you want to believe will cure all cancer, go ahead, do so. But I WILL NOT PAY FOR IT!! Given: HPV related cervical cancers claim 3,700/ year in America AS THE ARICLE CLAIMS. that's where that number comes from.

The claim that Gardisol can prevent 2590 of those, comes from YOU. As for those other numbers, I haven't clue where you got those from. But they are irrelevant as far as Gardisol goes, because gardisol does not claim to be a cure for anything other than 2 strains of the HPV virus, which Gardisol claims takes 3,700 lives in America per year, and which it claims can prevent 2590 of those.

How can I make it any more clear that this does NOT warrant mass inoculation at astronomical cost for minimal benefit at public expense?

Those that advocate this are not republicans, not even conservative republicans. This is pure "free healthcare" socialist idiocy. Soon as someone mentions "free healthcare" it seems they loose all ability to think clearly and rationally, and cannot see both the minimal benefit of this drug, and huge cost, not to mention trampling of civil liberties.

You'd think that even leefties, with all their claims against big drug companies ripping off the public would see the scam this is as well, but again soon as the word "free innoculation" is mentioned, all rational thought, what little they have, is lost.

253 posted on 02/06/2007 2:39:25 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Sols
FYI quote from this article:
Cervical cancer accounts for 3,700 deaths a year in the United States, including nearly 400 in Texas. Not the 10,00- 14,00 you claim.
254 posted on 02/06/2007 2:42:05 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Froufrou
It is a very small group who want to test (Yes ,I said test!) this vaccine on Texas school girls.

I'm with you on impeaching that pimp Perry.

Those who are all right with mandated experiments on school children are wicked.

Remember Megele also had the blessing of his government. He found out that the blessings of a government are worthless once those in charge loose power.

I hope for the sake of all you ignorant pigs, who want to go through with this scam, that Perry either checks himself or he is checked. If one girl suffers discomfort or loss as a result of a botched vaccine, Hell will be paid!
255 posted on 02/06/2007 2:43:48 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: Sols

Gardisol is more than "a harmless protein"- see their website for explanation. There you go making up stuff again.


256 posted on 02/06/2007 2:44:18 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Caesar Soze

Since my mother died in June from nonalcohol-related cirrhosis, and since I then learned the extent to which every medication is metabolized in the liver [quoting one of her doctors] I think you could say I'm more interested than I was before.

Too little, too late. I'm sure you didn't mean to be so snide.


257 posted on 02/06/2007 2:46:16 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: MeanWestTexan
Actually, I think they know. They just want sinful "sluts" to die and/or have their genitals cut out because they had evil sex.

Wow. I have to say that I find that statement appalling. There are two legitimate questions to be asked here:

1. Does the cost/benefit ratio of this drug warrant administering it to one's child?
2. Does the governor have the authority to declare by Executive Order that all children will receive it?

To claim that those who are raising concern over this want girls to die or have their genitals cut out is disgusting and over the top. You should be ashamed.

258 posted on 02/06/2007 2:46:31 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Sols
Here's (false) claims from other sites:

It’s a medical breakthrough! We now know that 99.7% of cervical cancer is caused by the human papillomavirus (HPV) and we now have a vaccine that protects against HPV! The new HPV vaccine, called Gardisol, is now available and you can get it right here at our Island Sexual Health Clinic. Many doctors’ offices and medical clinics also provide this vaccine.The Gardisol vaccine is a series of 3 doses which are given at 0, 2 and 6 months and is indicated for females aged 9-26. Ideally it is given to a woman before she becomes sexually active, but it can still be given to those who are already sexually active. http://islandsexualhealth.org/blog/hpv-vaccine-is-here

And you are telling me women aren't being missinformed? HA!

259 posted on 02/06/2007 2:50:39 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Sols

"Vioxx is a drug, not a harmless foreign protein (along with yeast and aluminum and some other more-or-less inert stuff) which generates antibodies in your system and is then cleansed from your blood and passed harmlessly."

Looks like you didn't read the list of side effects found in the trials. Some of them were quite serious.


260 posted on 02/06/2007 2:54:58 PM PST by webstersII
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