Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

$10,426 Tax Bill For Smoker Who Bought Cigs Over Internet
NBC-10 ^ | February 4, 2007

Posted on 02/04/2007 4:51:40 PM PST by Malacoda

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-116 next last
To: Malacoda
Folks this isn't a new law..... It was passed in 1949

CHAPTER 10A—COLLECTION OF STATE CIGARETTE TAXES

TITLE 15 > CHAPTER 10A > § 376 Prev | Next

§ 376. Reports to State tobacco tax administrator

How Current is This?

(a) Contents
Any person who sells or transfers for profit cigarettes in interstate commerce, whereby such cigarettes are shipped into a State taxing the sale or use of cigarettes, to other than a distributor licensed by or located in such State, or who advertises or offers cigarettes for such a sale or transfer and shipment, shall—
(1) first file with the tobacco tax administrator of the State into which such shipment is made or in which such advertisement or offer is disseminated a statement setting forth his name and trade name (if any), and the address of his principal place of business and of any other place of business; and
(2) not later than the 10th day of each calendar month, file with the tobacco tax administrator of the State into which such shipment is made, a memorandum or a copy of the invoice covering each and every shipment of cigarettes made during the previous calendar month into such State; the memorandum or invoice in each case to include the name and address of the person to whom the shipment was made, the brand, and the quantity thereof.
(b) Presumptive evidence
The fact that any person ships or delivers for shipment any cigarettes shall, if such shipment is into a State in which such person has filed a statement with the tobacco tax administrator under subsection (a)(1) of this section, be presumptive evidence
(1) that such cigarettes were sold, or transferred for profit, by such person, and
(2) that such sale or transfer was to other than a distributor licensed by or located in such State.

41 posted on 02/04/2007 5:49:58 PM PST by deport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hot Tabasco

Tax Agreements and purchases of goods over the internet are not part of the Jenkins Act. The Jenkins Act is part of the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearm law. I am sure you probably know that.


42 posted on 02/04/2007 5:50:10 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Las Vegas Ron
Every one of us probably does something illegal everyday and don't even realize it

Oh, I realize it! I just don't know which laws I broke. You practically need to be a lawyer to do anything, anymore.
43 posted on 02/04/2007 5:52:47 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Malacoda

Which states to not tax tobacco products?


44 posted on 02/04/2007 6:48:06 PM PST by Temple Owl (Excelsior! Onward and upward.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Las Vegas Ron

If collected, it should be included AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE by the vendor. Then you avoid things like this.


45 posted on 02/04/2007 7:02:17 PM PST by moog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Las Vegas Ron
Every one of us probably does something illegal everyday and don't even realize it

"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with." ('Atlas Shrugged' 1957)

46 posted on 02/04/2007 7:02:19 PM PST by elkfersupper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Dallas59

Because, they want their taxes.

BTW, they really don't care about health.

Makes them complicit.


47 posted on 02/04/2007 7:28:45 PM PST by dhs12345
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: at bay
Not that simple. In any sale you have to disclose the total amount a customer needs to pay. That includes any hidden or deferred taxes. The question is, did the online retailer say explicitly that a sales tax is owed? Does New Jersey law require an explicit disclosure from the online retailer to the customer?
48 posted on 02/04/2007 7:41:57 PM PST by raj bhatia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Malacoda
I've only bought Native smokes right from the Mohawk Nation. Since they made all on line orders come through USPS recently I knew that something was up.

I started to chew and dip, so I hope they stand back if they knock on my door for back taxes.

49 posted on 02/04/2007 7:44:50 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Malacoda
Next,
If you take a paid vacation to NJ you'll have to pay them a percentage
of your payroll taxes for every hour spent there..

Wait and see.

50 posted on 02/04/2007 7:47:23 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Snoopers-868th

"I don't believe Indian Reservations will sell to you unless you can prove you are an Indian or a member of a tribe."

We buy ours from an out of state indian reservation and they won't report to the state.

If you buy from a reservation within your state you get reported.


51 posted on 02/04/2007 7:47:47 PM PST by dalereed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Malacoda

Roll 'em. $9.00 a carton.


52 posted on 02/04/2007 8:02:39 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xcamel
"Offshore companies don't have to report anything."

Not being a smoker, it shouldn't matter much to me, but I hope many take notice of your excellent point.

53 posted on 02/04/2007 8:06:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Lancey Howard

Anybody with any sense would have gotten the hell out of NJ a long time ago. That state is so laughably corrupt. Those that remain have the kind of government they deserve and they deserve to be taxed 100%.


54 posted on 02/04/2007 8:16:28 PM PST by StockAyatollah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: rhombus
Why is only the tobacco industry subject to these reporting laws? What's next?

Hint: BATFE

55 posted on 02/04/2007 8:24:02 PM PST by Myrddin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Malacoda

This is another reason that I started stuffing my own using locally bought products.


56 posted on 02/04/2007 8:24:10 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: traviskicks

ping


57 posted on 02/04/2007 8:26:44 PM PST by KoRn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Hot Tabasco
Watch the big time internet sales giants such as L.L.Bean, Cabela's, etc. start getting inquiries from the states such as Michigan for their sales records then start going after the customers. Myself, I was nailed for for tobacco taxes last year and when those bastards get you in their sights, you are guilty even if you can prove your innocence......

Barnes & Noble has "bricks & mortar" stores in Idaho. When I order books from the B&N website, I have to pay Idaho sales tax. The same would apply to an order from Cabela's. They have a store in Idaho as well. Amazon doesn't charge sales tax because they have no physical stores. Still, many states of "sales tax" and "use tax". If you don't pay sales tax, you are required to pay "use tax". Failure to pay the "use tax" is tax evasion. Amazon's discounts and free shipping are hard to beat. Keeping track of the sales tax isn't a big deal compared to making a 100 mile round trip to Idaho Falls to purchase the same book at Barnes and Noble. It's much less expensive than hiring a lawyer to represent you in a tax evasion case.

58 posted on 02/04/2007 8:32:24 PM PST by Myrddin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Snoopers-868th
I don't believe Indian Reservations will sell to you unless you can prove you are an Indian or a member of a tribe.

Incorrect. I know people up in Marxist-Homo WA state who were non-Indians who bought smokes from the Tribe smoke shops. They have drive through smoke shops on some of the rez's and you don't even have to get out of your car.

59 posted on 02/04/2007 8:36:34 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Marxis-Dimocrats stand for everything I hate and wish to see destroyed, including them!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: raj bhatia
In any sale you have to disclose the total amount a customer needs to pay. That includes any hidden or deferred taxes. The question is, did the online retailer say explicitly that a sales tax is owed? Does New Jersey law require an explicit disclosure from the online retailer to the customer?

I don't know about this but I do know that I never heard of a single retailer being prosecuted for NOT complying with the Jenkins Act law to report their internet cigarette sales. The states were not interested in the law--they were interested in the taxes. Individuals not paying the taxes were caught by the State subpoenas of the cigarette sales records of the retailer. The on-line retailer probably never heard of the Jenkins Act as it is something dragged out from the 40's. Does that ignorance make him any more worthy of a pass by the law? It is all a bunch of crap anyway. We should be able to do the same as business and government do. Get the most from our money where ever it takes us with no penalties.

60 posted on 02/04/2007 8:44:51 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-116 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson