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Tolerating Intolerance Is Still This Country's Besetting Sin (UK)
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 2-4-2007 | Henry Potter

Posted on 02/04/2007 3:11:06 PM PST by blam

Tolerating intolerance is still this country's besetting sin

If the majority of Muslims truly want to integrate, they could start by kicking out the preachers of hatred from their mosques

Henry Porter
Sunday February 4, 2007
The Observer (UK)

Imagine the Archbishop of Canterbury or any senior Anglican clergyman giving a sermon which suggested that homosexual men should be thrown off a mountain; that they were no better than filthy dogs. Imagine another priest rising in another church to preach that children should be hit for not praying, that women were deficient, should walk behind men and only go out with their man's permission. Consider what the reaction would be if a third joined in by saying all Jews were born liars.

The media would be trembling with indignation for weeks. Questions would be asked in the House and the archbishop called to account for the state of his church. There would be demonstrations, commissions of inquiry and Baron St John of Fawsley would be summoned from retirement. But when these statements are made in British mosques and recorded by a secret camera for a Channel 4 Dispatches programme, it seems nobody takes much notice. This might have been because Undercover Mosque was broadcast three weeks ago, as the nation was obsessed with Jade Goody's behaviour on Big Brother. While Goody has the power to cause an international incident, it seems that weekly attacks on women, gays and Jews raise little interest.

I suspect the lack of outrage has a lot to do with the degree of separate development that has taken place in Britain while so many of us were living the multiculturalist dream. Whatever Muslims say, the standards that most British institutions live by simply do not apply to the missionaries of Saudi fundamentalism who,

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: intolerance; islam; muslims; rop; tolerating

1 posted on 02/04/2007 3:11:07 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; Alouette; SJackson; MadIvan; Salem; quidnunc; Convert from ECUSA; definitelynotaliberal; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/04/2007 3:21:01 PM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: blam

I think there's a storm brewing in the UK.


3 posted on 02/04/2007 3:22:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: blam

The comments on the site are even more enlightening than the article.


4 posted on 02/04/2007 3:25:11 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: blam
Interesting.

in the thousand years since the reign of Caliph al Ma'mun, the Arabs have translated as many books as Spain does in just one year

5 posted on 02/04/2007 3:43:29 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: proxy_user
The comments on the site are even more enlightening than the article.

That is true but I don't have enough years left to read them all.

What interested me in the article itself was the author's quoting of polls taken which put the Muslims in a good light (I have partial reference to the two-thirds saying they prefer their children go to public schools). Does the gentleman not know that it is a tenet of that religion to lie to the infidels if so doing serves the interests of Islam. So, lie and keep yourself and others in the U.K. and breed, breed until your numbers are sufficient to take over.

6 posted on 02/04/2007 3:55:49 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: blam

Very interesting to see an article like this in the Guardian, which is a pillar of political correctness.


7 posted on 02/04/2007 4:19:31 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam
suggested that homosexual men should be thrown off a mountain; that they were no better than filthy dog

Islamic men practice homosexuality, they just don't call it that.

Then, an author like this comes along a pretends that Islamic men are homophobic.

It is all just so much spin so that each group can embrace homosexuality.

8 posted on 02/04/2007 4:19:59 PM PST by donna
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To: donna
I am an Englishman who lives in South Carolina - there is a reason for that and this article lays some of it out. To quote the English writer Chesterton, "tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions." The British government should take this motto to heart and start protecting the English.
9 posted on 02/04/2007 4:24:48 PM PST by Rodney Kings Brain ("veritas odium parit" - "truth begets hatred")
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To: blam
I am shocked, shocked to read an article like this in the Guardian. I would expect an article that brought these issues up, to end with the writer somehow finding a way to blame the British themselves (like some of the responses the the article do).

Is it possible that some on the left are getting fed up with these primitive, back-water imans?

10 posted on 02/04/2007 4:29:45 PM PST by Mona Lisa2 (Oliver Stoned: "We should look to (Castro) as one of the Earth's wisest people..."!!!)
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To: Rodney Kings Brain

Well said. Both Britain and America would benefit from a strong dose of Chesterton.


11 posted on 02/04/2007 4:44:16 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: Rodney Kings Brain; Malesherbes

I agree that a dose of Chesterton is always a good thing. And, the States can use a dose of English common sense.


12 posted on 02/04/2007 5:33:18 PM PST by donna
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To: blam

It's time for the Brits to take matters into their own hands and start stringing up muzzies before the muzzies destroy their country.


13 posted on 02/04/2007 7:34:45 PM PST by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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for later


14 posted on 02/04/2007 7:39:56 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: blam
In a week when the Catholic church has been forced to bow to new anti-discrimination laws, it seems extraordinary that the views of a man such as Abu Usamah. . .

There's nothing extraordinary about these two things - forcing a traditional Western religion like Catholicism to bow down to political correctness and the presence of Muslims in Britain are part and parcel of the same genocidal assault on Western civilization and tradition by the militant left. They're not opposites at all.

This is not about cultural supremacy, but about defending reasoned discourse and our liberal traditions against a group of men who wish this society nothing but ill.

Why shouldn't British culture be supreme in Britain? This traitor wants to have his cake and eat it too, to destroy the culture but somehow magically retain its benefits.

15 posted on 02/04/2007 9:17:49 PM PST by jordan8
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