Global warming debate all but over

Ottawa Citizen ^ | Saturday, February 03, 2007 | Andrew Thomson

[mowowie]

It's settled then, Time to oil the chain on my bike and buy a crap load of blankets.

[i362000]

Wow, -14 right now, wind chills in the -20s and -30s, and -2 for a high tomorrow. Yep. That proves global warming right there.

[lepton]

The group is now more than 90 per cent certain that fossil fuels are contributing heavily to global warming.

That's plenty big enough uncertainty to claim that the AGW cloud is overstating their case of it being concluded or inarguable science.

[ShawTaylor]

"Global warming debate all but over"

Utter rubbish!
Suckers that wrote this piece of ;loony left propaganda should read this from the Investors Business Daily:

"Hot And Bothered

But the 21-page report released in Paris on Friday portrays man as a plague on the planet that has produced everything from rising seas that will flood coastal areas to monster storms that will flatten everything in their path. Katrina, in the experts' view, was just an appetizer before the apocalypse.

Problem is, they ignore the planet's own history. About 20,000 years ago — long before the first SUV — global sea levels were 400 feet lower than they are now. Sea levels were rising long before the Industrial Revolution and will likely continue to rise, just not at the cataclysmic rates predicted by computer models.

Last year was supposed to be the year hurricanes would start arriving with greater frequency and strength. But nature didn't get the memo. There were only nine named storms during the Atlantic season, with just five becoming hurricanes.

In 2005 there were 27 named storms, 15 of them hurricanes, an exceptional year. The average is 15 named storms and 8.5 hurricanes. Last year was the first since 1997 in which the Gulf of Mexico had only one named storm and the first since 1997 when there were no Category 4 or Category 5 Atlantic storms. Apocalypse not?

All these prophecies of doom are based on computer models that are based on agreed-upon assumptions and fed a relatively small portion of the immense number of variables that affect weather or climate. Not all these variables are known or fully understood, which helps explain why these models can't even predict the past.

When the Clinton administration, which never submitted Kyoto to the Senate for ratification, produced a voluminous climate report, it selected two climate models.

One, from the Canadian Climate Center, forecast dramatic temperature increases. The other, a British model, predicted dramatic increases in precipitation.

Climatologist Patrick Michaels examined these two models and discovered they could not reproduce recorded temperature trends regardless of the period selected. The Canadian model overestimated actual U.S. warming in the 20th century by 300%.

When you can't grasp the past, how can you predict the future?

Even the man credited for starting the warming hype, NASA scientist James Hansen, has been spectacularly wrong in his own predictions. As author Michael Crichton has noted, Hansen's prediction in 1988 of a 0.35-degree Celsius rise in temperatures over the next decade overshot the actual rise — 0.11 degrees — by 219%."


http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=255313039030810

"Global warming" is voodoo science being propagated by the enviro-wackos, and deranged individuals like Algore.
It should be rejected out of hand by America.

[I see my hands]

This sort of garbage, wide spread poverty without opportunity, and massive terror attacks are all the left has to offer.

[DB]

It wasn't that long ago that the majority of scientist thought the sun revolved around the earth...

Global warming isn't the primary debate.

The cause is.

[SIDENET]

GLOBAL WARMING CAUSED BIRD FLU!!!

When are all of you silly people going to learn?!!

;-)

[blondee123]

-5 here in Illinois & -30 with wind chills! Maybe they should investigate Global Freezing!

[CedarDave]

There is some really good information out there on FR threads debunking GW, or at least giving an alternative explanation (keyword GlobalWarming).

The MSM and the politicos won't listen, but it isn't as nailed down as they like to think. They released the non-scientific summary yesterday, but the technical data backing it up won't be released until late spring. Speculation is that the technical data will lead to differing interpretations and they want the conclusions firmly in the public's mind before letting any skeptical scientists from examining the data and putting forth differing conclusions.

[Rastus]

That's when I lost all respect for Roger Ailes, when he aired a global warming fearmonger piece on Fox News and refused to let anyone present evidence to the contrary. "It's too important an issue to air an opposing viewpoint."

[TexasTransplant]

Yep Global Warming

I would bet a Pizza and a Pitcher of beer that we could spend our entire GNP on nothing but producing CO2 for the next 10 years and it wouldn't change world climate at all.

All plants are basically CO2 sponges, the Oceans are CO2 sponges.

What we can't do is change the output of the Sun, I say lets start working out a crop rotation schedule for Antarctica.

TT

[Mojave]

I guess we can now add 100 year weather forecasts to the list of things mankind has perfected.

Excellent observation.

[MATSEVAH]

Nobody can stop global Warming It's a part of the Lord's set time.When the Lord is ready The lord will create a new Earth and a new Heaven no one Person or organization can do that.No one can stop wars or disasters just name it Because the lord said these thing would happen And you can't change that. because it's a time which the Lord has picked.

[Brizick]

60 miles north of Chicago and I'm freezing my a** off. I said to my 82 year old mother (usually votes demonrat, except for Bush) that it must be global warming. She comes back with: "O.K. Al"

I almost lost it. Way to go Mom!

[neverhillorat]

Some guy on the radio keeps saying, FOLLOW THE MONEY!
Wonder if Chicken Little really knew how much money there was to be made if he just could have pursued 80% of the chickens that the sky was falling!

[aruanan]

Global warming debate all but over

There was never a debate. There were the proponents who utterly refused to listen to criticism. They dismissed them as "unscientific", the product of "industry hacks", and other ad hominem attacks. They did anything and everything but engage in a scientific debate. They have now proceeded to stick the fingers in the ears and intone "NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH" to drown out what they don't want to hear.

[Names Ash Housewares]

People who gaze into crystal balls always see terrible fates unless a sacrifice is made. Usually money. Always benefitting the cyrstal ball gazer.

[rightwingcrazy]

Lysenkoism on steroids.

[goldstategop]

As Rush said yesterday, "global warming" isn't really about science. Its agenda-driven by the folks who favor big government, income redistribution, dismantling our advanced technological civilization and running our lives for our own good. Its what faith is to religion, the cult of Gaia is to liberalism. Summarily stated, the belief is Man is a blight on the earth. Its a scary world view and these people are not really guided by reason. When they say the debate's over, you're looking at the Left's Society Of True Believers, folks.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[rock58seg]

I don't doubt that Global warming climate change exists. To do so would deny history. I do however doubt "MAN MADE Globaloney Warming." Gore "The Inconvenient Idiot" can take his Social Science Major Climate Experts and lie all the way to the Grant Bamk. Still won't make it so.

You can tell how bogus an idea is by how much pressure there is to stifle debate.