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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative
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| 2/3/07
| Steve Malanga
Posted on 02/03/2007 5:48:05 PM PST by zarf
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To: Melas
261
posted on
02/03/2007 7:54:28 PM PST
by
Howlin
(Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
To: zook
I can live with a pro-choice or pro-gay rights Republican candidate, as long as they want to kill as many Islamic totalitiarians as is humanly possible. If the enemy gets wise to your approach, then GAY terrorists may start streaming across the Mexican border (remember, RINO-rudy is also pro-illegal-alien) in an effort to kill as many American babies as possible (of course, they will be warmly greeted by NARAL, the demonRAT party, and RINOs like rudy, to name just a few of the pro-death coalition).
If THIS sounds a bit ridiculous, just think how ridiculous your support of a gay-loving, abortion-supporting, gun-grabbing, illegal-greeting RINO like rudy as a REPUBLICAN Presidential candidate is!
262
posted on
02/03/2007 7:54:45 PM PST
by
DocH
(Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
To: Jet Jaguar
I am glad we don't have to vote tomorrow too!
I am one of these that looks forward to everytime I vote even if I am not too thrilled with the candidate because I consider voting a sacred trust that this Country has made with me to be part of the government process to elect our leaders. I consider it a privilege to go in the voting booth and cast my ballot!
263
posted on
02/03/2007 7:54:55 PM PST
by
PhiKapMom
(Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
To: IslandJeff; Sir Francis Dashwood
You left out soooo much in your story: While he was the Republican Mayor of New York City he appointed more than 60 men and women to the Civil, Criminal, and Family Court benchs. In all of those judicial appointment not one of them was a Republican.
All of his judical appointments were either registered Liberals or registered Democrats. As the Republican Mayor he had appointment power over more than 70 full commissioners in more than 50 City agencies, yet at no time during his administration did REPUBLICANS account for more than 10% of those appointments.
He even appointed Chuck Schumers wife as the Citys Department of Transportation Commissioner.
________________________________________________________________
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9054.html His track record:
He appointed liberal judges,
he appointed corrupt cops (google Kerik)
he embraced every form of abortion
he accepted monies from NARAL
he sued gun companies
he embraced the 'gay' agenda
he defied the federal laws on immigration
he avoided military service
Sorry. He is a RINO.
264
posted on
02/03/2007 7:56:00 PM PST
by
narses
("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
To: Howlin
You got it. And I don't think any of us who think that way will get tossed out of here.
Once the GOP ticket is decided, even if it's Rudy, even if it's McCain, FR will mostly rally around them. A third party vote is a vote for Hillary (or someone like her).
265
posted on
02/03/2007 7:56:33 PM PST
by
zook
(America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
To: nctexan
I wanted to hear Flashbunny's choice also. Criticism without a plan reminds me of a certain past election.
To: DocH
Thanks for the great satire! (I wonder how many Freepers recognized it!)
267
posted on
02/03/2007 7:57:43 PM PST
by
zook
(America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
To: EternalVigilance
How about these? And really EV, don't try to patronize me by saying that April and May were not "leading up to Election Day." You quieted down after that. But I'm sure it's only because you were off losing someone else's campaign.
----
To Corin Stormhands:
I noticed you ignored the work he did for the NRSC...
You mean like pouring all the party's money into Arlen Specter's campaign?
229 posted on 04/21/2006 10:18:56 PM EDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
To: Corin Stormhands
Maybe you can help me out...
Does the Senator support abortions up until brainwaves commence, or until 'viability', which would include about 98% of the abortions being committed today?
He's made statements in the past that could lead a person to believe either.
Which is is it?
239 posted on 04/21/2006 10:44:14 PM EDT by EternalVigilance
Another couple of questions for you:
Ed Gillespie has been one of the most powerful figures in the Bush political machine.
Ed has also been THE leader of the Open Borders Lobby.
Now that he is George Allen's chief money man, can we expect Gillespie's views to carry through into the new administration if Senator Allen should win election?
Are those of us who suspect that that would be the case off-base when we note that Senator Allen's rhetoric has been almost identical to the President's?
240 posted on 04/21/2006 10:48:01 PM EDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
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To: Corin Stormhands
Will George Allen's administration continue the practice he began when he ran the NRSC of using donors funds to support RINOs over conservatives in congressional primaries?
247 posted on 04/21/2006 10:59:15 PM EDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
To: onyx
Obvously you do.
You can't defend Allen or his record with more than rah-rah cheerleader fluff, so you want to make it about me.
Par for the course.
We need that kind of leadership in the White House next time around like we need another 30 million illegals...
287 posted on 04/21/2006 11:41:22 PM EDT by EternalVigilance ("The emperor is wearing virtual clothes as he sits on his virtual fence!")
To: mnehrling
You can tell he is a front runner when the trolls and HSWs start posting negative comments about Allen all over here acting like it is 'right wing' disgust with him..
Don't know what you're talking about.
There is 'right wing disgust' with him, based on his screwy abortion position, his screwy 'virtual fence' notions, his hiring of the top Open Borders advocate as his top political and money man, the fact he's all over the board on stem cells, supports a guest worker program, does not support an absolute right of gun ownership, etc., etc., etc.
Who you calling trolls? And what is an "HSW"?
53 posted on 05/01/2006 1:51:06 PM EDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
To: zook
And I don't think any of us who think that way will get tossed out of here. Notice nobody took me up on that offer.
Pretty telling.
And you're right; after February 5th, when the nominee is clear, Freepers will rally around whoever the nominee is.
There is just too much to lose to mess around.
269
posted on
02/03/2007 7:58:30 PM PST
by
Howlin
(Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
To: Howlin
Then you were using your vote to blackmail the GOP by threatening to sit home and/or leave the party.
I've never threatened any such thing, your making that up.
Rudy supporters have every right to make the case for their candidate of choice.
You are absolutely right, even on a "Conservative" site. Because Jim allows it, but we have a right to debate it also.
Without you telling us to leave. It's not your place.
To: zarf
As a foreigner with no right to vote in the upcoming US elections, I'm watching this all unfold with a growing sense of dread.
The US Left is reasonably united along one line: they have a Cause. That is, to get back into power, by hook or by crook. They have two strong candidates, Obama and Billary. Either will do, one will be selected. Either will set at least one US Presidential First: either the first Black (maybe Muslim?) President, or the first Female ex-First Lady President.
The right has Giuliani -- a good candidate perhaps. And it has McCain -- another good candidate. And it would seem, to the rank-and-file Republicans neither will do, and neither will achieve much as US Presidential Firsts -- even tho' both have plenty of scope to do so.
In fact, the US right is busy chewing up anybody and everybody -- including the two most likely front-runners -- who dares step forward for the Republican nomination.
Overseas we get a deepening sense of foreboding: it is like watching a train-wreck in slow motion. The left will be in next election, sure as fate.
Hope I'm wrong. But, viewed from the outside, the Right's chances aren't looking too hot. Early days yet, but something had better change soon...
To: narses
I addressed your citation in another thread.
Look at that page's preferred links, and, um, "consider the source", Mr. Rather.
272
posted on
02/03/2007 8:00:18 PM PST
by
IslandJeff
(that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
To: PhiKapMom
let's have some debates, let's have the primaries, let's look at the polls - just the "normal" stuff any political apparatus engages in.
what bothers me about these threads - is the desire to exclude McCain and Rudy, absent that political process and the votes which follow. these guys are the two front runners in every poll (of republicans), yet alot of people just want to draw a line through their name and say "NO".
To: Corin Stormhands
Pulling stuff from others threads to create a flamewar are a bad thing. I hope you stop.
274
posted on
02/03/2007 8:01:11 PM PST
by
narses
("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
To: IslandJeff
You ignore the facts though. A RINO can never be trusted. Ask BOTH of his ex-wives.
275
posted on
02/03/2007 8:01:54 PM PST
by
narses
("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
To: Delphinium
I've never told anybody who wasn't threatening to sit it out or go third party to leave the party.
Period. I don't just randomly go around telling people to leave.
And Jim allows it because it's the American way.
The difference in most of us and you unappeasables is that when the nominee is chosen, those of us who care about this country will rally round the nominee, while the rest of you that are so offended by who gets it will stay here and trash him.
It's been that way since the beginning of this web site.
276
posted on
02/03/2007 8:02:05 PM PST
by
Howlin
(Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
To: PhiKapMom
I consider voting a sacred trust that this Country has made with me to be part of the government process to elect our leaders. I consider it a privilege to go in the voting booth and cast my ballot!I think of it as a debt we owe to those who gave their lives in uniform.
To: zarf; Victoria Delsoul; All
Rudy is a conservative?
By my estimate at post #228 on the thread linked below, I've estimated that Rudy's ACU rating would probably be something on the order of 20 to 30.
Click Here
If a Democrat with Rudy's track record in government (Richard Daley of Chicago, for example) ever tossed his hat into the ring for a White House bid, we'd rightly laugh him out of the room as darn near a hard-core leftist.
278
posted on
02/03/2007 8:02:22 PM PST
by
Alberta's Child
(Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
To: zook
FR will mostly rally around them Don't bet on MOST of us (see the recent poll?) supporting ANY RINO, and most ESPECIALLY a liberal, northeastern-corridor, abortion-supporting, gun-grabbing, gay-loving, illegal-greeting, scumbag lawyer, life-long jack-booted bureaucrat like RINO-rudy.
No way in bloody hell.
279
posted on
02/03/2007 8:03:55 PM PST
by
DocH
(Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
To: narses
So, one ex-wife is ok (e.g. Ronald Reagen). But two crosses the line?
I trust Rudy. Don't agree with him on everything, but that's not what I'm after in a president. As long as he kicks a lot of Islamofascist butt, I'll be happy.
280
posted on
02/03/2007 8:04:11 PM PST
by
zook
(America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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