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Rudy and the Republican Nomination
http://www.joinrudy2008.com/News/DocumentPrint.aspx?DocumentID=19580 ^ | 2 Feb 2007 | Brent Seaborn, Strategy Director

Posted on 02/02/2007 4:47:11 PM PST by PhiKapMom

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To: beltfed308
The Real Rudy Giuliani:

From Human Events:

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."

Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

61 posted on 02/02/2007 5:20:42 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: DocH
It's EASY to run a virtual POLICE-STATE.


62 posted on 02/02/2007 5:20:52 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: BunnySlippers

see post 41 sweetpea.


63 posted on 02/02/2007 5:20:54 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: My GOP

BRAVO! Very well stated and definitely a keeper!


64 posted on 02/02/2007 5:20:57 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: narses
Anyone else want to join????
65 posted on 02/02/2007 5:21:15 PM PST by JimFreedom (An optimistic pragmatic conservative for Rudy)
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To: trumandogz
Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

66 posted on 02/02/2007 5:21:22 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: BunnySlippers

67 posted on 02/02/2007 5:21:37 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Time for the spam pictures!


68 posted on 02/02/2007 5:21:59 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: BunnySlippers
LOL?

LIBERALS OPRESS LIBERTY?

69 posted on 02/02/2007 5:22:09 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Beagle8U
xPro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE OF GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POLITICAL POSITIONS

70 posted on 02/02/2007 5:22:14 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: JimFreedom

71 posted on 02/02/2007 5:22:40 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: JimFreedom
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1777111/posts?page=290#290

The words of Jim Robinson on pushing a liberal like Rino Rudy.
72 posted on 02/02/2007 5:22:50 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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To: TommyDale

Um, no balls at all. Good Luck America.


73 posted on 02/02/2007 5:22:53 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Beagle8U

Without these threads the anti-Rudy crowd wouldn't have anyplace to post their seimar postings! We are providing a service! :)


74 posted on 02/02/2007 5:23:07 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: JimFreedom
Gotta a new home page...Great Rudy graphic!

Go Jim Go!

75 posted on 02/02/2007 5:23:21 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: DocH

If it were so easy, how come everyone before Rudy failed so miserably? How come so many of America's other great cities have gone under, been abandoned, and deterioorate as we speak.
No Rudy Hater can diminish his experience and acomplishments in making NYC the greatest city in the world.


76 posted on 02/02/2007 5:23:46 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: PhiKapMom

We deserve a Rudy thread without the Spiffy=Spam (trademark)


77 posted on 02/02/2007 5:23:58 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: narses

Hey Narses...check my home page!


78 posted on 02/02/2007 5:24:33 PM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: PhiKapMom
other candidates, you might find some real problems in their background. Took me about 10 minutes on Hunter

.

What problems did you find on Hunter ?

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79 posted on 02/02/2007 5:24:36 PM PST by repentant_pundit (Q: How do you get islamists to shut up ? A: muzzle'em)
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To: PhiKapMom
seimar postings What's a "seimar" posting RINO-loving-goofball?
80 posted on 02/02/2007 5:24:46 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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