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I just can't buy that thousands upon thousands of scientists from every corner of the world are part of some liberal conspiracy to stir up panic about global warming.

I see no downside in reducing or even ending our dependence on fossil fuels. This should have been done years ago.


92 posted on 02/02/2007 11:46:08 AM PST by LiberalGunNut
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To: LiberalGunNut
"I just can't buy that thousands upon thousands of scientists from every corner of the world are part of some liberal conspiracy to stir up panic about global warming."

Try this out as an assist in believing that scientists might not be honest with the global warming issue....it is great deal to get research dollars and never have to show any results within the lifetime of those that are funding the research.
94 posted on 02/02/2007 11:52:38 AM PST by Binghamton_native
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To: LiberalGunNut
"I see no downside in reducing or even ending our dependence on fossil fuels. This should have been done years ago."

Then sell your car and quit taking any form of public transportation. Walk, or ride a bike. That will reduce dependance on Abiotic oil, which bubbles up all by itswelf all over the place, in the sea, on the land, polluting as nature intended it to, so using it instead will help keep the land and water clean.

Don't be a hypocrate, reducing oil consuption starts with you. Don't whine about it if YOU are still using it.

And it WILL have a huge downside. Our entire economy depends on oil, manufacturing, thousands of by products, pipes, plastics, medicines etc.

I will keep burning as much as i can, because I live in the country, walking is out of the question. I live in a cold climate, I need heat or I will freeze to death.

The whole world will NOT fit into your perspective of it from the balcony of your apartment in California where you have a tropical climate.

97 posted on 02/02/2007 11:59:01 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: LiberalGunNut
I just can't buy that thousands upon thousands of scientists from every corner of the world are part of some liberal conspiracy to stir up panic about global warming.

It's not a conspiracy so much as "group-think". Scientist & professors must get published in peer-reviewed journals. It's a treadmill that doesn't reward creative thinking so much as contributing a minor detail to an established line of research. If you question the basic underlying assumption of the research (fetal stem cells?) you may risk you career prospects.

99 posted on 02/02/2007 12:02:26 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: LiberalGunNut

Lets build hundreds and hundreds of nuclear plants. End the coal use and save it for gasification.


102 posted on 02/02/2007 12:07:58 PM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: LiberalGunNut
I just can't buy that thousands upon thousands of scientists from every corner of the world are part of some liberal conspiracy to stir up panic about global warming.

I see no downside in reducing or even ending our dependence on fossil fuels. This should have been done years ago.

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The activities of the Union of Concerned Scientists deserve special mention. That widely supported organization was originally devoted to nuclear disarmament. As the cold war began to end, the group began to actively oppose nuclear power generation.

Their position was unpopular with many physicists. Over the past few years, the organization has turned to the battle against global warming in a particularly hysterical manner.

In 1989 the group began to circulate a petition urging recognition of global warming as potentially the great danger to mankind. Most recipients who did not sign were solicited at least twice more.

The petition was eventually signed by 700 scientists including a great many members of the National Academy of Sciences and Nobel laureates. Only about three or four of the signers, however, had any involvement in climatology.

Interestingly, the petition had two pages, and on the second page there was a call for renewed consideration of nuclear power.

When the petition was published in the New York Times, however, the second page was omitted. In any event, that document helped solidify the public perception that "all scientists'' agreed with the disaster scenario. Such a disturbing abuse of scientific authority was not unnoticed.

107 posted on 02/02/2007 12:18:28 PM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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Above quote was from http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv15n2/reg15n2g.html


109 posted on 02/02/2007 12:20:10 PM PST by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: LiberalGunNut

Only those touting the global warming lines get money and microphones. Those who don't are shunned.


115 posted on 02/02/2007 12:39:29 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: LiberalGunNut
I just can't buy that thousands upon thousands of scientists from every corner of the world are part of some liberal conspiracy to stir up panic about global warming.

Most of them aren't. Most of them are bandwagon jumpers-on. It will not be the first time in the history of science that large numbers of scientists jumped on a bandwagon opinion, not wanting to be left off the wagon. In those times, it was usually the mavericks that ended up being correct. Copernicus is an example, but there are many others. The one thing that all bandwagon-mentality scientific positions have in common is their incestuous relationships with public policy (politics). Michael Crighton gave a lecture at CalTech in 2003 where he addressed the unhealthy relationship between governments and scientists, and how brave, bold scientists bucked the conventional wisdom to be proven right, but in their lifetime were scorned. Here is a link to the lecture: "Alians Caused Global Warming." It is a REALLY long read, but extremely enlightening about how science by consensus has led us down the wrong path in the past.

I see no downside in reducing or even ending our dependence on fossil fuels. This should have been done years ago.

Valid points, which I find no argument with. I would add that those few scientists which are the ones really pushing the global warming alarmism are too associated with the IPCC of the UN. In fact without the UN pushing this topic so forcefully (and we know why it is... world socialism), I have my doubts that it would have so many people jumping "on the wagon".
126 posted on 02/02/2007 2:10:16 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: LiberalGunNut
I just can't buy that thousands upon thousands of scientists from every corner of the world are part of some liberal conspiracy to stir up panic about global warming.

I see no downside in reducing or even ending our dependence on fossil fuels. This should have been done years ago.

Your inability to discern fact from fable is something I can't change. You deal in beliefs and feelings not logic.

Get out your bike and skates and you will be doing your part. Man's use of fossil fuels is goodness, not evil and ending our use of them isn't going to happen until there is a more efficient way to provide energy.

The downside is higher costs and less productivity and since you can't understand that, that puts you in the company of your fellow travelers, marx, lenin and hillary.

135 posted on 02/02/2007 5:29:19 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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