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To: 8mmMauser
The Shiavo mess was a disaster for the Republican party. A classic example of overreach to pander to the base while turning off the rest of the country.

As hard as it may be to accept, Michael Shiavo was her husband and had every right to make the decisions for Terri.

If I was in the same position, I probably would have deferred to the parents plea for their daughter, however other husbands will be thankful in the future that this debacle didn't eviscerate husbands rights.

5 posted on 02/02/2007 4:00:16 AM PST by zarf
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To: zarf
If you review what has happened in the nearly two years since that killing, you may find plenty of support for your take coming from the left, the far left, the loony left, and the communists.

The MSM will be in wholehearted agreement with you and will support your position with well exercised mantras. Take a look. A vast repository exists now on the pro's and the con's in the Terri Daily threads, facts, evidence. You may even wish to shift your position a bit if you do the reading. I hope so.

It wasn't much about husband's rights, but was very much about a successful killing that took fifteen years to achieve, putting O.J.'s feeble trial to shame.

7 posted on 02/02/2007 4:10:06 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: zarf

"HUSBANDS RIGHTS" - guess you're prodeath for infants too


8 posted on 02/02/2007 4:16:07 AM PST by aumrl
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To: zarf; 8mmMauser
As hard as it may be to accept, Michael Shiavo was her husband and had every right to make the decisions for Terri.

Terri Schiavo won a malpractice lawsuit against the doctors and hospital that originally treated her. Her estranged husband (and when a man is living with another woman and having children with her, he is estranged from his wife regardless of her condition) was obligated under the settlement to use the money for her rehabilitation. He NEVER DID THIS, instead he spent the money on legal battles to kill her.

The strawman arguments that Michael Schaivo didn't really need to comply with his legal obligation to get medical treatment for his wife are not very different from the arguments we heard four years ago about how UN mandates against Saddam Hussein really didn't need to be enforced.

18 posted on 02/02/2007 4:55:07 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: zarf
>> Michael Shiavo was her husband and had every right to make the decisions for Terri.

Her husband was Michael Schiavo. It is best to know how to spell the protagonist's name when you discuss the case with more knowledgeable people.

You are mistaken about his rights in the matter, too. The guardian may not make medical decisions for his ward. Neither guardians nor judges are qualified or licensed to practice medicine. (There are certain exceptions if the guardian is a physician but they do not apply here.) Also note that a ward (Terri) is under state protection. The laws do not permit guardians to make decisions that would cause death or harm to the ward.

28 posted on 02/02/2007 5:27:25 AM PST by T'wit (In the absence of market prices, all factors of production, including people, go to waste.)
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To: zarf
As hard as it may be to accept, Michael Shiavo was her husband and had every right to make the decisions for Terri.

If I was in the same position, I probably would have deferred to the parents plea for their daughter, however other husbands will be thankful in the future that this debacle didn't eviscerate husbands rights.

No.

85 posted on 02/05/2007 6:46:53 AM PST by gogeo
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To: zarf
OH my gosh. You surely do not know the circumstances of Terri's so called 'accident' or you would never have said " as hard as it may be to accept...."

It is not only HARD to accept the state sanctioned murder of Terri, done in a GRUESOME WAY (death row inmates get a more merciful death than 13 days of being denied water and food), but it is WRONG to accept it, EVER.

Schiavo is a MONSTER.

93 posted on 02/05/2007 5:24:04 PM PST by Republic (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity & Mark Levin have a genuine passion for our nation!)
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To: zarf

You are totally wrong and must be a lover of murder! He wasn't her husband, he had dumped her years ago and had beat her to within inches of death! It was and is a high spot for the Republican Party and always will be. You, I hope I never meet.


258 posted on 02/10/2007 7:09:09 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: zarf
To me the Schiavo case was not a mess for the Republican party if you understood the issue that the Republicans examined and resolved. Death row inmates are allowed an appeal to a higher court for their death sentence, so why not an innocent woman.
353 posted on 02/17/2007 4:58:56 AM PST by razzle
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