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Dakota Voice ^ | 1/29/2007 | Carrie K. Hutchens

Posted on 02/02/2007 3:49:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser

I don't know about anyone else, but I am still waiting for Michael Schiavo to make a correction on his blog about what "actually" took place in Colorado when he went there (to the debate) to supposedly ask Congresswoman Musgrave one question and she and her staff supposedly tried to have him removed. He called it, "My unreal night in Colorado - with radio link" (Thu Oct 26, 2006 at 08:05:14 PM PST). I'll say (from what I read) that it was his "unreal night".

As I said before in "Standing up and Admitting a Mistake: Not Schiavo's Style?",  if four uniformed officers were around my seat, I would have some idea of what was going on. I certainly wouldn't be sitting in "duh mode" to only be told later of what took place right there around me, as Michael suggests he was. If Michael's account is realistic -- his response and reaction is not. Nor is his response appropriate now that he has "learned" what he was "allegedly told" is not what took place. One would think if he can't get the words out that he was mistaken, he could at least have removed the inaccurate entry from his blog.

He has done neither.

I'm also still waiting to read about, "Also, maybe tomorrow I'll post about my election-eve rally with Bill Clinton in Florida." (A real election impact by Michael Schiavo, Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:40:34 AM PST).  Indeed, I would love to read that story by Michael, since I read it was not possible. Not if he was implying it was the Bill Clinton that is the former President of the United States. Will be interesting to see what he says about that if he ever does.

If Michael couldn't get it straight what happened at the Musgrave debate or even if he spent election-eve with former President Bill Clinton -- do you suppose he might have gotten Terri Schiavo's wishes mixed-up as well? (He does claim to have a bad memory from what I read.) Makes one wonder. At least makes me wonder. Whatever...

I'm still waiting for the corrections if not the explanations!

 

Carrie Hutchens is a former law enforcement officer and a freelance writer who is active in fighting against the death culture movement and the injustices within the judicial and law enforcement systems.


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KEYWORDS: michael; michaelschiavo; schiavo; schiavomurderedterri; schindler; terri; terridailies; terrischiavo; terrisfight
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To: vox_freedom
Is that "bad cat" sending FR posts again?

He is just learning to search for trolls and is really hopeless with his typing, hasn't learned to spellcheck.

881 posted on 03/18/2007 5:36:39 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: BykrBayb

Wow!


(signed, apprentice viking kitty.)


882 posted on 03/18/2007 5:37:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Madame Blavatsky's Theosophy and New Age drivel.

I believe that was the exact title, so you should have capitalized "drivel."

:-)

I have always wanted to pour millions of steel ball bearings and marbles into the top floor of the UN, then set off the fire alarm.

883 posted on 03/18/2007 5:38:24 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb
Vikie, baby, stop over tonight for a little catnip.


884 posted on 03/18/2007 5:42:32 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: T'wit

He was a stray, remember, in the dead of winter, when we opened the door for him. Meanwhile he had been partying with two feral cat ladies who stayed away from our place. (The neighbor has now befriended them and is taking them to visit a vet.) Anyway, during the cold weather we kept him inside, and sure enough, heard banging on the window. The two young lady cats (no ladies for sure) came up and jumped on the window to catch our attention and to ask if he could come out and play. We tried to shame them but they are beyond shame.


885 posted on 03/18/2007 5:51:27 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Wasn't the UN grounds once seated at the site of Lucifer (Later Lucis) Trust on 666 UN Plaza?

Beats me. Y'know, in a forgotten era, the John Birch Society made war on the UN, and it was not altogether unknown to hear information of the above sort. The liberal left then made war on the John Birch Society. The whole casus belli was whether Dwight Eisenhower was a commie. But the commie was Milton Eisenhower, his brother, not Ike, so the Birchers were routed. And thus another quaint chapter in American history was ground into the dust.

/parody, but not by much :-)

886 posted on 03/18/2007 5:52:41 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser

You are making me laugh out loud!


887 posted on 03/18/2007 5:53:45 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> banging on the window.

I've heard of people banging on a piano but never banging on a window.

888 posted on 03/18/2007 5:56:16 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Two cases of might-have-been Terri Schiavos.

Others with injuries like Terri's

889 posted on 03/18/2007 10:59:00 AM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: T'wit
I see those are patients of Dr. Richard Neubauer. He filed an affidavit for Terri.
890 posted on 03/18/2007 1:39:44 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Important ping to T'wit post # 889 above with thanks for finding it, powerful antidote to the naysayers and detractors!

Jolanda and Kaelyn

8mm


891 posted on 03/18/2007 1:49:50 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit

All I can say is WOW!


892 posted on 03/18/2007 1:52:49 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: bjs1779
Thanks, bjs1779. At the end he proposes a simple test and says:

"If this test shows recoverable brain function, it is a mandatory obligation from a medical standpoint that Ms Schiavo receive the proper therapy. In my opinion, to forego treatment of this patient and deny her nutrition and hydration amounts to murder.

893 posted on 03/18/2007 1:54:28 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: the good news is, lots of people have agreed with you. The bad news is, they were Nazis.)
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To: T'wit; bjs1779

Unfortunately, the bioethickers only consider a death murder when the victim has the ability to defend themselves.


894 posted on 03/18/2007 1:59:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: T'wit; bjs1779; wagglebee; demographic_crisis
Another thread and by demographic_crisis is going on Romney and Terri with new visitors and Kool Aid served by visitors.

Mitt Romney's Comments on Terri Schiavo Could Sink His Candidacy

8mm

895 posted on 03/18/2007 2:08:50 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

BUMP


896 posted on 03/18/2007 2:09:02 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: All; Lesforlife; floriduh voter; BykrBayb
Texas Futile Care law prepared to kill again! This comes from Andrea Clark's sister. Thanks, LesforLife.

........................

Futile Care: March 18, 2007
Toddler Forced Off Life Support - Help Needed

Melanie Childlers, one of Andrea Clark's sisters, wrote the following disturbing message concerning Emilio Gonzales, the 16-month-old boy who is set to be taken off "life support" against his mother's wishes:
Emilio Gonzales is a sixteen month old infant at Brackenridge Children's Hospital in Austin, TX. He has been diagnosed with Leigh's disease. Leigh's disease is a genetic malady which is caused by a lack of functional mitochondrial complexes. There is NO DEFINITIVE TEST for Leigh's disease, and physicians usually diagnose it based on symptoms, alone. There are tests which can back up the diagnosis, but let me reiterate: there are no definitive tests for this disease.

A group that practices in-house at Brackenridge Children's Hospital, in Austin, TX, called The Pediatric Physicians Alliance of Central Texas, has decided that Emilio Gonzales should die. Although not all of the test results are in, and even if they were, they would not be a definitive diagnosis of Leigh's disease, Emilio Gonzales is set to have his respirator removed this Friday.

This disease is usually treated with thiamin, but these physicians decided to take him off of treatment. It was only when his lawyer, Jerri Ward, insisted that they put him back on the treatment that they did so. These children can live, and often do live, to be about six or seven years of age. This child is sixteen months old and these physicians have decided not to give him a chance at the rest of his life, despite his family's wishes to the contrary.


We have been in touch with the Bishop of the Austin Diocese--Bishop Aymond--who you would THINK would stick up for the life of this little child, but who instead supports killing little Emilio Gonzales. I guess if you're on Medicaid, your life just isn't as worthwhile as it would be if you had good insurance. Bishop Aymond's number is: 512-476-4888. Please call him and if you can't get him on the phone, leave a message, letting him know how you feel about the Catholic Church's approval of the murder of this small child. Keep in mind: This is a CATHOLIC-owned hospital! The head of the Catholic Conference of Bishops is Andrew Rivas. His phone number is: 512-339-9882; please call him and let him know how you feel about this issue.

Please, also get in touch with Brackenridge Children's Hospital, in Austin, TX. Their number is: 512-324-8000. Let them know how you feel about their murdering Emilio Gonzales. Maybe if they get enough calls through their switchboard, they might change their mind about killing this little boy.

You may also contact the physician's group (Pediatric Physicians Alliance of Central Texas) that is handling Emilio's treatment, composed of several doctors who have actively campaigned to have this child's treatment withdrawn at: 512-324-8009.

Please post these numbers on any blog or website you can think of and help this mother stop the hospital from killing her little boy!
Related:
Toddler Going Off Life Support Despite Mom's Wishes - News

Baby's life hangs in balance at hospital - Doctors say it's time to withdraw treatment; mother says it's too soon - News

Texas: Baby's Mom Receives 10 Day Notice - The futile care law is an abuse of power with anonymous people playing god with other people's lives. Where is the accountability? It's time the futile care law be removed from the books and human life be returned to something valued not devalued and so easily tossed away.


Texas Patient's Rights - the organization founded by Andrea Clark's family following their battle for her rights.

Update: here is a letter written by Diane Coleman, President of Not Dead Yet:
NOT DEAD YET Letter Opposing the Texas Futility Law
Dear Governor Perry,

I am writing on behalf of Not Dead Yet, a national disability organization that fights legalization of assisted suicide, euthanasia and other types of medical killing. The Texas chapter of Not Dead Yet has been part of the effort to overturn the current draconian "futility" statute in your state - an effort that has been effectively stonewalled by the special interests of medical facilities, medical professionals and bioethicists'.

Unfortunately, the latest implementation of this statute can't wait for a change in the law. Emilio Gonzales, who is 16 months old, will die next week when the Children's Hospital of Austin removes him from a ventilator.

According to news reports, Emilio's use of a ventilator lacks "dignity" and merely "prolongs death," according to the ethics committee at Children's Hospital.

As president of this national group, I can tell you that the nation has been watching Texas for some time with increasing alarm.

On behalf of our allies in Texas and their concerned allies around the country, I request you order a "stay of execution" for this young child.

If you need reasons other than simple humanity, here's one that might help: Since Emilio is a Medicaid recipient, he falls under the protections afforded by Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. Removal of his ventilator - against the express wishes of his mother - violates his civil rights under Section 504. In addition, the due process right to a hearing arises when Medicaid benefits and services are reduced for an individual. If the recipient's parent has even been duly notified of this right, no such hearing has taken place. Any theory that the ethics committee procedure satisfies Medicaid hearing requirements is ludicrous.

But right now, what's most important is a child whose brief life will be snuffed out shortly - and with not even one of the protections that would be afforded death row prisoners.

Please intervene. Now.

Sincerely,

Diane Coleman, J.D.
President Not Dead Yet
7521 Madison St. Forest Park, IL 60130
708-209-1500 ext. 11
www.notdeadyet.org
And, here's a press release from Not Dead Yet:
The mother of this child wants the doctors and the hospital to continue treatment. The doctors say it is "futile" and have started the 10 day clock, that which at the end of these ten days unless the mother has found another doctor or facility to treat her son, the doctors in Austin will discontinue care and he will die. They say care is "futile", the mother says give her more time!!!

Though the medical specifics are complicated and the legal issues byzantine, the disability rights issues are not.

Simply stated the hospital and the doctors are going against the stated wishes of the legally responsible person, the mother, who has stated her opposition to their "godlike" position.

The disability rights movement was founded on the fundamental concepts of "choice and control." Our medial diagnosis shouldn't allow the medical community to override our wishes or the wishes of our legally authorized representative.

A person on death row in Texas gets more protections than the child in Austin is allowed by Texas' "futile care" law. The hospital ethics committee has met and the ten day death clock is ticking.

Ten days and your dead!

We must speak out. There is a bill in the 80th Legislature that would change our current "futile care" law to "treatment pending transfer".

The doctors and hospitals are against it.

This disability community represented by the Texas Disability Policy Consortium has a position supporting "treatment pending transfer".

However while these political wranglings go on, it is likely the child in the Austin hospital will be dead, caused by the arrogance of the medical professions not to listen to the wishes of his mother.

Why are doctors in Texas allowed to override our decisions?

PLEASE ACT TODAY!!! TIME IS CRUCIAL. The Ten day death clock is ticking!

Please contact Texas Governor Perry's office and ask him to give the child in the Austin hospital a reprieve. He can give reprieves to death row inmates. He can save the life of the child in Austin.

The person to contact in Governor Perry's office is Nora Cox:

ncox@governor.state.tx.us

Thank you,

Bob Kafka
NOT DEAD YET of Texas2

897 posted on 03/18/2007 2:51:04 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit
"If this test shows recoverable brain function, it is a mandatory obligation from a medical standpoint that Ms Schiavo receive the proper therapy. In my opinion, to forego treatment of this patient and deny her nutrition and hydration amounts to murder."

Below is Judge Greer directly addressing Dr. Richard Neubauer's therapy and similar therapies.

"Where there is life, there is no hope" - Judge Greer

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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT IN AND FOR PINELLAS COUNTY, FLORIDA
SIXTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT

In re: The GUARDIANSHIP OF Theresa Marie SCHIAVO, Incapacitated.

Michael SCHIAVO, as Guardian of the person of Theresa Marie Schiavo,

Petitioner, v. Robert SCHINDLER and Mary Schindler, Respondents.

No. 90-2908-GB-003.
Nov. 22, 2002.

ORDER

The Mandate requires something more than a belief, hope or "some" improvement. It requires this court to find, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the treatment offers such sufficient promise of increased cognitive function in Mrs. Schiavo's cerebral cortex so as to significantly improve her quality of life.

Accordingly, it is ORDERED AND AJDUDGED [sic] that the Motion for Relief from Judgment filed herein by Robert and Mary Schindler, Respondents, be and the same is hereby denied.

In the event the Motion for Relief from Judgement [sic] is denied, the Mandate also requires this court to follow the dictates of the prior Mandate of the Second District Court of Appeal and "enter an order scheduling the withdrawal of life- support". Accordingly, it is

FURTHER ORDERED AND ADJUDGED that Michael Schiavo, as Guardian of the Person of Theresa Marie Schiavo, shall withdraw or cause to be withdrawn the artificial life-support (hydration and nutrition tube) from Theresa Marie Schiavo at 3:00 p.m. on January 3, 2003.

898 posted on 03/18/2007 3:19:36 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
From one writing for the Boston Globe who considers he understands Catholics...

Even in contemporary Roman Catholicism, with whose condemnation of fundamentalism we began. Catholic fundamentalists are more likely to be called "traditionalists," and today the Vatican is their sponsor. Instead of reading the Bible uncritically, in search of "ready answers to the problems of life," they read papal statements that way, finding in encyclicals the "false certitude" that the Vatican warns biblical literalists against. The most recent case in point is Pope Benedict's "Apostolic Exhortation," issued last week. What begins as a contemplative appreciation of the Eucharist ends up as a manifesto designed to keep many Catholics from receiving Communion at Mass. The ticket to Communion is an uncritical acceptance of what the pope calls, in a striking echo, "fundamental values," which include defense of human life "from conception to natural death." The key declaration is that "these values are not negotiable."

But culture consists precisely in negotiation of values, and change in how values are understood is part of life. Moral reasoning is not mere obedience, but lively interaction among principles, situations, and the "human limitations" referred to in the 1993 Vatican statement. Take "conception." The great Thomas Aquinas depended on 13th-century notions of biology, and did not believe that human life began at conception. Negotiation followed. Take "natural death." Disagreements over its meaning (including among Catholic bishops) were made vivid not long ago in the case of Terri Schiavo. Negotiation followed. The pope affirms universal and unchanging "values grounded in human nature," as if human nature is fixed, instead of evolving. One detects here, too, a suspicion of Darwin, an invitation to "intellectual suicide."

The various fundamentalisms are all concerned with "fortifying borders," and that is a purpose of today's Vatican. The pope's exhortation concludes by referring to the Catholic people as the "flock" entrusted to bishops. Sheep stay inside the fence. But what happens when Catholics stop thinking of themselves as sheep?

The many forms of fundamentalism

8mm


899 posted on 03/19/2007 3:09:06 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit; bjs1779; BykrBayb
Ping to my comments on the Mitt Romney thread, post #188. In this instance, I lightly correlated Hitler's NAZIs' programs of euthanasia to the euthanasia of here and now, in a challenge by another. I do not have the verbal wherewithall to make my point as you do.

Any info from you may enlighten the viewers more than I could.

here

8mm

900 posted on 03/19/2007 4:31:03 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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