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To: cgk

--The data interpretation for 2000 alone, which was the quote I provided along with the source, showed the trend towards the end of his term: going up.--

I still don't see that it supports your position that abortions under Giullian went down.



--"Abortion Capital of America" is the title of the story. Don't accuse me of falsifying statistics that I neither interpreted nor created. I merely passed them on to rebut your simple statement that abortion went down while he was mayor.--

I said abortions went down. You said "Not exactly" and provided a link. I thought you were providing the link to show that abortions did not go down. Sorry. You were just using that old trick to provide a link hoping that most would just take your words "Not exactly" at face value and never go to the link and see the disconnect between your words and the link's words.


604 posted on 02/02/2007 8:05:17 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: UpAllNight
I still don't see that it supports your position that abortions under Giullian went down.

Beg pardon?

You were just using that old trick to provide a link hoping that most would just take your words "Not exactly" at face value and never go to the link and see the disconnect between your words and the link's words.

I'm not sure what kind of tactic this is. It's a pretty pathetic one if people actually use it. I'd never post a link I didn't want people to click on and go read. I did provide 2 links: one to search results for the stories on Abortions in NYC. Mostly because I was trying to show this topic had been discussed on FR before. The second link was to that article specifically, and I included an excerpt about the data from 2000, which as you remember stated "the last year for which good data are available". I used that excerpt because it applied to a year at the end of his term as mayor which spanned from 94 to '01. If you honestly think I was trying to chalk up all the abortions in NYC over 30 years and saddle them on Rudy's back, well... sorry but that's pretty amusing. Who have you been squabbling with, preschoolers?

Later in that same article it states this:

Over the past twenty years, while legislatures have circumscribed access to abortion in state after state, especially for the poor and the young, New York has remained an island of unrestricted abortion rights. Medicaid pays for abortions for low-income women. Teenagers don’t need a parent’s permission to have an abortion. There are no 24-hour waiting periods. Thirty-four major clinics in New York City each perform more than 400 abortions per year.

New York becomes more pro-choice every year. After years of electoral free fall, the New York Right to Life Party failed to win enough votes in 2002 to stay on the ballot. The party doesn’t even have a Website anymore. The New York Right to Life Committee, which founded the national anti-abortion movement in 1967, hasn’t had a legislative victory in years. No pro-life candidate can win statewide office in New York. Ambitious Republicans climbing toward the governor’s mansion, like George Pataki, and now John Faso, hastily ditch their pro-life pasts. New York City’s mayor is one of the most pro-choice politicians in the country.

In short, New York is the abortion capital of America.

605 posted on 02/02/2007 8:28:10 AM PST by cgk (Republicanism didn't make Conservatives a majority. Conservatism made Republicans a majority. [NEWT])
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