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Giuliani, McCain Have Competing Strengths in Republicans' Eyes (New Gallup Poll)
Gallup ^ | 2/1/07

Posted on 02/01/2007 9:16:46 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: BMIC
Mark my words: neither one will be elected President. So better to find somebody else to represent the party, or forget about winning in '08.

OK a gentleman's bet. I predict Giuliani will be the next president. We can forget about winning in '08 if anybody other than Giuliani is our candidate. Especially if the Hildabeast is the opponent.
21 posted on 02/01/2007 9:39:52 AM PST by Signalman
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To: areafiftyone

Nothing in this poll about gun control or protecting our own borders.


22 posted on 02/01/2007 9:39:52 AM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: LC HOGHEAD
Then you elect HILLARY by default

So if we don't nominate Rudy or McVain, there's no chance, eh?

I'm throwing in my backing for Paris Hilton. She's more famous than Rudy and McVain put together, and she's got plenty of money. /rino logic

23 posted on 02/01/2007 9:40:58 AM PST by dirtboy (Paris Hilton 08 - because name recognition is EVERYTHING! Duncan's not HOT enough!)
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To: areafiftyone

If it comes down to Rudy vs. McCain, Rudy is 1000 times better than McCain.


24 posted on 02/01/2007 9:42:44 AM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Bobkk47
We can forget about winning in '08 if anybody other than Giuliani is our candidate.

Your opinion stands in complete disregard of Republican strategies for success over the last thirty years.

When the GOP stays right, they win. When they go left, they lose.

You don't draw Reagan Dems back to the GOP by chasing them deep into the Democratic party.

25 posted on 02/01/2007 9:43:01 AM PST by dirtboy (Paris Hilton 08 - because name recognition is EVERYTHING! Duncan's not HOT enough!)
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To: LC HOGHEAD
Then you elect HILLARY by default. DUMB move.

I don't see much of a difference between Hillary, McCain, or Guiliani. Please, enlighten me. What am I missing?

Vote for a liberal - you'll get liberalism.

26 posted on 02/01/2007 9:44:24 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: dirtboy
When the GOP stays right, they win.

Rightly or wrongly, people perceive what President Bush is doing as hard right conservatism. This is largely due to what the media is saying. Rightly or wrongly, the media has been chipping away at President Bush, saying he's a failure. Whoever the next candidate is, has to be a complete break with President Bush - furthermore, there is one thing that has been lost in the mists of time: Reagan campaigned with an optimistic view of the future, many on the right now campaign with a scowl. The latter will not work. Giuliani shows that he has the best understanding of this (so far).

Regards, Ivan

27 posted on 02/01/2007 9:45:56 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: LS
I don't trust McLame there either.

One should need to look no further than "McCain-Feingold" in order to see why he should not be elected. The First Amendment is effectively dead, thanks to this ******* -- already he's shut up our local conservative radio talk show hosts when it comes to political races.

28 posted on 02/01/2007 9:46:13 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: concerned about politics
I don't see much of a difference between Hillary, McCain, or Guiliani. Please, enlighten me. What am I missing?

Read this, then come back. I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who remembers BKO!

Ivan

29 posted on 02/01/2007 9:47:44 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: concerned about politics
Vote for a liberal - you'll get liberalism. totalitarianism.
30 posted on 02/01/2007 9:48:02 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: MadIvan
Reagan campaigned with an optimistic view of the future, many on the right now campaign with a scowl. The latter will not work. Giuliani shows that he has the best understanding of this (so far).

The primaries are a long way off. The GOP has to first correct its own course, and they are showing no signs of doing such. I see a lot of wrong lessons being learned from 2006. Which means we may well repeat the drubbing in 2008.

31 posted on 02/01/2007 9:48:12 AM PST by dirtboy (Paris Hilton 08 - because name recognition is EVERYTHING! Duncan's not HOT enough!)
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To: dirtboy

Giuliani is a Conservative when it comes to the things that count:

Strong on Defense

Strong on fighting the war on terror

Strong proponent of a Free Market Economy,/Pro Business, and low taxes

How he stands on gay rights and/or abortion does not bother me in the slightest.


32 posted on 02/01/2007 9:49:33 AM PST by Signalman
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To: dirtboy
I think Martinez as the head of the RNC was a mistake - the job demands full-time attention, not something a sitting Senator can do (at least I hope so).

Regards, Ivan

33 posted on 02/01/2007 9:50:56 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Bobkk47
How he stands on gay rights and/or abortion does not bother me in the slightest.

Realize that there are millions of Republican voters who feel very differently about that.

And saying their views do not matter is NOT the way to win them over.

34 posted on 02/01/2007 9:52:47 AM PST by dirtboy (Paris Hilton 08 - because name recognition is EVERYTHING! Duncan's not HOT enough!)
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To: areafiftyone

They should do the same poll in 3 months. After potential voters learn about all the baggage the two carry. Just say no to Rudy!


35 posted on 02/01/2007 9:53:16 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: dinoparty

I know that this will bring the wrath of many anti-McCain Freepers, but McCain would be my candidate of choice if he were not so damned old.



Being old is the least of my concerns. What concerns me is that he is a cowardly, insane liberal whos only concern is with himself. He has no concern for what is best for America.


36 posted on 02/01/2007 9:57:12 AM PST by John D
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To: MadIvan
Read this, then come back. I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who remembers BKO!

Ok. That's Hillary.
Now tell me why banning the right to self defense, unfettered infanticide, homo "marriage", high taxes, and universal health care are something we should be supporting under McCain and Rudy.

Vote for a liberal - you'll get liberalism, whether it comes from a (D) or an (R). Liberalism is still liberalism.

Shouldn't we ignore the liberal presses choice for us and support a Conservative candidate instead?

37 posted on 02/01/2007 9:59:35 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: Bobkk47
How he stands on gay rights and/or abortion does not bother me in the slightest.

He can't win without social conservatives. Social liberalism affects the country we live in too, you know, and is just as dangerous. The more the moral fabric breaks, the more social programs are needed to clean up the mess.

38 posted on 02/01/2007 10:03:36 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: areafiftyone

So what's the big deal. Of these who cares. They all are in the cartel & bought & paid for by the same elites. We're going to fight wars until there is no more money & put us on equal with the rest of the nations all the time the elites take more of the wealth from us.


39 posted on 02/01/2007 10:13:28 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: areafiftyone

I'm more concerned about their competing weaknesses.


40 posted on 02/01/2007 10:17:14 AM PST by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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