Posted on 01/26/2007 4:32:14 AM PST by Tom D.
Edwards Home County's Largest The 28,200-square-foot Edwards home in Orange County is expected to be valued at more than $6 million. RALEIGH Presidential candidate John Edwards and his family recently moved into what, according to county tax officials, is the most valuable home in Orange County. The home, which includes a recreational building attached to the main living quarters, also is probably the largest in the county. The Edwardses residential property will likely have the highest tax value in the county, Orange County Tax Assessor John Smith told . He estimated that the tax value will exceed $6 million when the facility is completed. The rambling structure sits in the middle of a 102-acre estate on Old Greensboro Road west of Chapel Hill. The heavily wooded site and winding driveway ensure that the home is not visible from the road. No Trespassing signs discourage passersby from venturing past the gate. Don Knight, Orange County building plans examiner, told CJ that, including the recreational building, the Edwardses home would be one of the largest in Orange County. Knight approved the building plans that showed the Edwards home totaling 28,200 square feet of connected space. The main house is 10,400 square feet and has two garages. The recreation building, a red, barn-like building containing 15,600 square feet, is connected to the house by a closed-in and roofed structure or varying widths and elevations that totals 2,200 square feet. The main house is all on one level except for a 600-square-foot bedroom and bath area above the guest garage. The recreation building contains a basketball court, a squash court, two stages, a bedroom, kitchen, bathrooms, swimming pool, a four-story tower, and a room designated Johns Lounge. Edwards was the Democratic candidate for vice president in 2006 and a former N.C. senator. Thursday afternoon, the Edwards for President press office was unable to provide information on any additional buildings planned for the estate. Don Carrington is executive editor of Carolina Journal.
Questions: Why SIX bathrooms for TWO bedrooms? Is there a medical problem he hasn't revealed? LOL
a link from the link you posted
I didn't know she was working for Vanity Fair
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/06/AR2005050600908.html
Their oldest daughter, Cate, who recently graduated from Princeton University and now works as an editorial assistant at Vanity Fair magazine, visited on holidays and school vacations .
It crashed mine, too; that thing is HUGE.
Besides, you know I don't understand the money part..........LOL.
For a house like that in that part of Georgetown, someone got a pretty good deal - since prices have been stabilizing or even slipping in the DC area for the last year or so.
He just can't stop wearing the pastels from his preppy days.
Who knew? Isn't Tim Russert's wife the editor?
Wow, I'm going to start chasing ambulances!
Didn't some ME people buy the house in DC?
If I recall correctly, there was some problem with the deal Edwards got; and he didn't pay the taxes it on for quite a while (until some reporter found out, if I recall correctly).
That isn't any fancier than my fireplace. But I don't have 28K sq ft or acres!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/18/AR2007011802077.html
and this:
Exposé or just innuendo?
Maybe we're really, really missing something, but does the Washington Post's front-page exposé on the sale of John Edwards' house in Georgetown strike anyone else as something less than all that?
The Post says that Edwards "finally succeeded last month in selling his imposing Georgetown mansion for $5.2 million after it had languished on the market" and that Edwards' spokeswoman said at the time that the house had been sold to an unidentified corporation. "In reality," the paper says, "the buyers were Paul and Terry Klaassen."
Reality check No. 1: As the Post acknowledges later in its own story, the Klaassens bought the house through something called "P Street LLC," a limited-liability corporation they seem to have created for the purpose of buying the house. So when Edwards' spokeswoman said that the house was purchased by a corporation, she was right.
Yes, but who are the Klaassens? The Post says that they're the owners of nation's largest chain of assisted-living facilities for seniors, that they're "cooperating with a government inquiry in connection with accounting practices and stock options exercised by them and other company insiders," and that they're "the focus of legal complaints by some of the same labor unions whose support Edwards has been assiduously courting for his presidential bid."
Reality check No. 2: So? We've sold a couple of houses in our day, and we'd be hard-pressed to remember who the buyers were. We certainly wouldn't have known whether they'd had issues with the government or with labor unions. Does someone in public life have a greater obligation to know about the people to whom he's selling? In some circumstances, sure. If Edwards had been, say, the head of the SEC when he made the sale, then there would be cause for concern here: The buyers might have paid too much for the house as a quid pro quo for better treatment in the SEC case. There might also be reason for concern if the buyers were the leaders of the labor unions Edwards is courting: Maybe he'd be inclined to give them too good of a deal as a quid pro quo for their support.
But the reality? Edwards is a former senator and presidential hopeful from the party that doesn't control the executive branch. As such, it's hard to see how he could be of much service to the Klassens in their SEC case until at least 2008, and that's assuming that he wins both the Democratic nomination for the presidency and the presidency itself. And the Klassens aren't labor leaders; they're in disputes with labor leaders. How does selling them a house help Edwards win political support from the unions?
And that leads us to reality check No. 3. It's hard to make anything at all out of any of this unless you start with the assumption that the price Edwards got for the house was either too high or too low. Can the Post make that case? Not so far as we can tell. The paper says that Edwards paid $3.8 million for the house in 2002 and then made "substantial renovations" before selling the house for $5.2 million, "half a million dollars below the asking price but still $1.4 million more than the Edwardses paid four years earlier."
Is there anything particularly suspect about that? Not really. According to the Post's annual housing reports, median home prices in Georgetown rose by about 4 percent between 2002 and 2003, by about 5 percent between 2003 and 2004, and by about 15 percent between 2004 and 2005. Put those together, and the house Edwards bought for $3.8 million in 2002 could be worth around $4.8 million in 2006 -- and that's before you figure in the "substantial renovations" the family made or the appreciation they might have enjoyed in 2006, a year for which the Post's annual real estate statistics aren't yet available. Once you add those factors into the mix, a sales price of $5.2 million hardly seems worthy of eyebrow raising, let alone front-page innuendo.
Here's the N&O story, from the WashPost:
http://www.newsobserver.com/643/story/534204.html
No doubt hundreds of Katrina victims will be allowed to live on the estate. Ha!
No; they own Sunrise Assisted Living.
If you have the latest version of Google Earth, you can open it and go to Chapel Hill and go to Old Greensboro Road, (right below Highway 54); you can see where they have cleaned the acreage. It's right to the east of Neville Road.
That must be why they cleared all that land, huh? For the TRAILERS, right?
*Snort*
But does he speak Spanish?
Edwards sold the Georgetown house for $5.2 million (he had paid $3.8 million in 2002, so it's not a huge stretch to spend $6 million for a new house in the Chapel Hill area (although I have no idea how the tax assessment rate relates to actual value, in Virginia Beach where I live assessment is only about 70% of market value). Plus, I'm not sure whether or not he is selling his other house in North Carolina (IIRC it was in the Charlotte area, but I could be wrong), and if he is he certainly made money on it too.
And to top it all off, we don't know how much Edwards is actually PAYING for his new house. For all we know, he could have some sort of business relationship with the builder.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/18/AR2007011802077.html
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