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Ford May Report Worst Loss in History
ap ^ | 1/24/07 | Tom Krisher, AP Business Writer

Posted on 01/24/2007 5:37:16 PM PST by Flavius

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Well, most cars today, any brand is a pile of plastic, and cheap electronics and hideous design. Obviously my opinion.

So since #1 car manufacturer Toyota also builds hideous, bubbly cars,in my opinion, one can assume the only loyalty is in years of reliable service or perception of that track record.

Since parts are virtually from same suppliers for all car manufacturers, then it can be the no hassle repair/quality customer service that builds brand loyalty.

Lastly, for foreign cars there are no union dues on a car, which I guess is $1500 premium per USA vehicle.

1 posted on 01/24/2007 5:37:17 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Flavius

UNION workers and pension plans.


2 posted on 01/24/2007 5:39:07 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Flavius

Ford of Michigan or Ford of Tennesse? :)


3 posted on 01/24/2007 5:41:00 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: Flavius; onyx

Sounds like they're not feeling very GAY over at Ford.


4 posted on 01/24/2007 5:41:35 PM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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and for this they were paying $900,000 per year for Mark Fields to commute to Miami on weekends?
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/18/news/companies/fields_flights/?postversion=2007011814


5 posted on 01/24/2007 5:42:02 PM PST by nascarnation
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Not sure if it means much, but this weekend's auto show in central MA doesn't even show Ford on the floor plan!

Although there are Ford brands- Jag and Land Rover.

www.worcesterautoshow.com

6 posted on 01/24/2007 5:42:54 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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well i was trying to focus on plastic on rubber wheels that passes for "trucks" these days


7 posted on 01/24/2007 5:43:33 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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You also pay somewhat more than $500 per vehicle for the insurance premium that the manufacturer has to carry in the USA.

Ford will collapse. Someone else will buy the plant up and continue producing cars... this time without having to support the ridiculous union compensation levels and after firing all the managers that brought the company to this pass. The govt will end up carrying the weight of the ridiculous pensions.


8 posted on 01/24/2007 5:44:21 PM PST by Seruzawa (Marx's Das Kapital never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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Until ford can bulid a full size pick up worth a dam i will keep buying toyotas every ten years and worry only about gas tires and oil


9 posted on 01/24/2007 5:45:06 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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the jag looks like ford Taurus with 20 cent more expensive head lights

i just cannot believe that in a country as creative as United States

the car industry relies on old ceo's old accountants to make designs decisions

its really a crime, i know there are probably thousand of talented kids that are not allowed to create

that part is management fault as well,

off course all in my opinion


10 posted on 01/24/2007 5:45:41 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Seruzawa

The govt will end up carrying the weight of the ridiculous pensions.= You and me


11 posted on 01/24/2007 5:46:01 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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I figured that the brighter people here would understand that without having to explain it. Thanks for helping the others out.


12 posted on 01/24/2007 5:47:55 PM PST by Seruzawa (Marx's Das Kapital never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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To: Seruzawa

Ford will survive. No Ford fan I, but the family still has enough money and borrowing power to survive as a smaller maker. Why Mercury ? Why this stupid pig they're trying to pass off as a Lincoln SUV ? Gad.


13 posted on 01/24/2007 5:48:17 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Flavius

Well, Ford is still better than the NY Times.


14 posted on 01/24/2007 5:49:46 PM PST by jdm
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Boeing turned it around, so can GM and Ford.


15 posted on 01/24/2007 5:50:25 PM PST by LdSentinal
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ahm well yes shredded paper absorbs much more then shredded car


16 posted on 01/24/2007 5:52:58 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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...car manufacturer Toyota also builds hideous, bubbly cars...

Chrysler's second nearest bankruptcy came as a result of their designs in the late forties/early fifties. They did extensive surveys about what customers wanted. Looks was far down the list. Chrysler designed the boxy cars that people said they wanted and got laughed at for their efforts.

Maybe Toyota just builds cars that people will buy. Seems to work for them. Buyers like to think about "style" and performance but many buy on price and reliability.

17 posted on 01/24/2007 5:53:19 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: al baby

Per news reports also out today, the UAW is in negotiations for the union to assume retiree health benefits, which could potentially save $1000+ per vehicle.

We'll see if it happens, but if it does, it would almost guarantee to save the companies and the taxpayers $$$, as the savings could be greater than the per vehicle losses the companies are currently seeing.


18 posted on 01/24/2007 5:54:01 PM PST by eraser2005
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To: Flavius
So spending all that time, effort and money catering to the gay community is really paying off for them?

I guess putting all that time and energy into engineering a reliable, attractive, affordable product didn't seem necessary.

And then there's the unions.

19 posted on 01/24/2007 5:54:09 PM PST by AFreeBird (If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
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Well it was for the trolls and and lurkers from du and for Sean Hannity he he he


20 posted on 01/24/2007 5:54:20 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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