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**LIVE Thread - State of the Union Address [starting at approx. comment 400]
http://www.cspan.org/ ^ | 1-23-07

Posted on 01/23/2007 4:45:40 PM PST by STARWISE

Edited on 01/23/2007 6:37:01 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: mylife

"They have been working steadily at it! They just added armed troops to the TX border TODAY"

That only took 6 years in office and 1 year+ of massive pressure. Without a physical wall, well a "virtual wall" has an off switch.


821 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:40 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: DaveLoneRanger

REDUCING GASOLINE USAGE BUSH SAID. UGH, we're a capitalist society!!!


822 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:40 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here)
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To: paulat
Wow!! Pelosi is standing up before Cheney on a lot of these points.

Say what you want about Nasty Pelosi...but she's probably more nimble on her feet than Vice President Cheney is.

823 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:40 PM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: EnochPowellWasRight
CIR is an amnesty.

Say it again, Sam...
824 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:43 PM PST by rottndog (While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
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To: Fudd Fan

Looks like pelosi keeps trying to push food out from her teeth with that werid tongue licking thing going on!!!


825 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:51 PM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Why does McCain's left side of his face look swollen? Is that something he always had?


826 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:54 PM PST by Babsig (www.genesysitsolutions.com)
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To: relee

Sorry Bush, I'm using all the gasoline I want. KMA, brother, KMA!


827 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:55 PM PST by Last Laugh (We the People are in charge, so let's act like it!)
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To: relee

ROFL


828 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:55 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: traditional1

I give up. I can't keep up with you guys.


829 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:58 PM PST by Just Lori (Blessed are the peacemakers: ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE, MARINES, COAST GUARD!!!!)
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Did he smirk when he said "Woddchips"? I instantly thought of his "wood" quip from the debate with Kerry.


830 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:58 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: traditional1

Cheney appears totally dis-interested and saddened by the lack of conservative stances, and is smiling at some of the worthless proposals....


831 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:58 PM PST by traditional1
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To: FreedomCalls

"We have made a lot of progress, thanks to good policies in Washington and the strong response of the market. Now even more dramatic advances are within reach. Tonight, I ask Congress to join me in pursuing a great goal. Let us build on the work we have done and reduce gasoline usage in the United States by 20 percent in the next ten years. /applause/ When we do that we will have cut our total imports by the equivalent of three-quarters of all the oil we now import from the Middle East. "


832 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:59 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: STARWISE
Guestworker program will not take pressure off the border! Do Swift Co. raids, cut welfare/benefits, and put ARMED troops + wall on the border!

Here's what Arkansas is having to do since the federal government has abandoned this issue:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1772599/posts

He got no standing O for his immigration plan!

833 posted on 01/23/2007 6:31:59 PM PST by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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To: beaversmom

Guest of Dana Rorhbackeer?


834 posted on 01/23/2007 6:32:06 PM PST by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: FreedomCalls
"When it comes to healthcare, government has an obligation to care for the elderly, the disabled, and poor children."

I must have missed that in the Constitution somewhere...probably falls under the catch-all "..promote the general welfare...". Family and churches are relieved of their obligations at least.

835 posted on 01/23/2007 6:32:10 PM PST by Drago
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Government has an obligation to care for the children, elderly, and disabled

Ahhh yes...it takes a village. Where have we heard that before?

836 posted on 01/23/2007 6:32:11 PM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: Ziva

whats the lib position on nuclear power ?


837 posted on 01/23/2007 6:32:13 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

As I understand it, here goes.

All employer contributions to health insurance premiums would be considered taxable income. However, an additional deduction would apply based on your status. For single taxpayers, a deduction of $7500 would apply, and for families, a deduction of $15000 would apply. The only way taxes would be raised is if you pay more than $7500 per year for a single insurance plan or $15000 for a family plan. To put that in perspective, the average family plan costs about $11000 and the average single plan costs about $4500.

If you're paying additional taxes, then one of the following must apply:

1) You have the world's best health plan;
2) Your employer does not care what the health plan they provide costs;
3) Your employer did not bother to negotiate a worthwhile price;
4) You did not attempt to shop around or pick a cost-effective plan.

It affects those with high-priced health plans. I understand the net goal of this is to encourage people to shop around and choose lower-priced health plans, ultimately bringing down the cost of health care. Also, if I'm correct, there is a financial incentive for getting under that cap limit (the deduction applies whether you spend $7500 on health premiums or not).


838 posted on 01/23/2007 6:32:22 PM PST by flintsilver7
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To: All

When Pelosi stands to clap, is that a signal?


839 posted on 01/23/2007 6:32:25 PM PST by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: cajungirl

I didn't like our HSA at first but soon got used to it and liked it once we built up the account. I'm not one to rush to the doctor for everything anyway. Now that I'm used to it, my husband has a new job and we are back to standard plan.


840 posted on 01/23/2007 6:32:26 PM PST by beaversmom
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