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What is changing, however, is not the influence and power of the United States, but perceptions of such prompted by America’s own unhappiness over the inability to establish a democracy quickly in the heart of the ancient caliphate after the three-week victory over Saddam Hussein. Our technological prowess and spiraling wealth have left the Western public with expectations of instantaneous results. In war — after Panama, Bosnia, and Kosovo — that means victory without losses; in peace, the absurd notion that if we aren’t perfect in our execution, we are not good in our intent.

Europe — with its vaunted constitution in peril, stagnant economic growth, unassimilated minorities, demographic stasis and puny militaries — treads carefully. The notion that Americans may think they are in trouble cheers many. But privately they rightly fear even more that the United States might just do what continental intellectuals dream of — withdraw from the world stage. That would mean pacifist Europeans would have to rely on their utopian principles to reason with an energy-rich Russia, a nuclear Iran, and radical Islamist or autocratic regimes cross the Mediterranean and in the nearby Middle East.


1 posted on 01/21/2007 10:58:11 AM PST by quidnunc
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To: Tolik

FYI


2 posted on 01/21/2007 10:58:45 AM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc

"History teaches us that when a barbarian race confronts a sleeping culture, the barbarian always wins."
--Arnold Toynbee


3 posted on 01/21/2007 11:18:10 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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"if we aren’t perfect in our execution, we are not good in our intent."

This is what I get from the kids: If it can't be all one way, then it has to go to the opposite extreme like "OK, I'll just kill myself!" Guess this means that our society is growing, from the excrement orientation of toddler-hood, the sexual awakening of late childhood, to now the early adolescence of polarized thinking.
4 posted on 01/21/2007 11:28:18 AM PST by raftguide
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To: quidnunc
VDH is exactly right that this is media driven, as it was during Vietnam. Now every talking head on the msm, democrat or enemy starts each point with "Now that everyone agrees that the war is lost and Bush is too stubborn to admit it".

As I have said on other threads, I was naive enough to think that the internet would not allow the msm to pull what they did in Vietnam. Too many of our citizens hate the America that we love and too many more are too stupid to think for themsleves, getting their worldview from oprah, katie and rosie.

5 posted on 01/21/2007 11:38:03 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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Good article. Please go read it, since it is actually positive and encouraging, and intelligently lays out why we aren't even close to going to pot.


6 posted on 01/21/2007 12:12:53 PM PST by avenir (The fickle and the faithless go wobbly-kneed at every newsblurb.)
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To: quidnunc

Good article by VDH. Thanks for posting.


8 posted on 01/21/2007 1:24:43 PM PST by PGalt
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Excellent article. It is important to remember that "America lost in Iraq" is a taunt, not an expression of established fact. We would be fools to try to validate our progress in Iraq by the acknowledgment of those who have an ideological axe to grind - it will never happen. And some of the taunters act profoundly against their own interests -

That would mean pacifist Europeans would have to rely on their utopian principles to reason with an energy-rich Russia, a nuclear Iran, and radical Islamist or autocratic regimes cross the Mediterranean and in the nearby Middle East.

And best of luck with that one. A Golden Age is passing rapidly at the hands of those too stupid and contrary to recognize what they're killing. Both Spengler and Toynbee had examples of that in abundance, which may account for part of the reason they can be such a depressing read.

9 posted on 01/21/2007 1:49:19 PM PST by Billthedrill
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American armed forces are stretched too thin — and said to be exhausted after failing to stop the resurgent bloodletting not only in Iraq, but now in Afghanistan as well. A weakened George Bush reaches out to Democrats at home and Europeans abroad in vain. Both seem to be saying that their once loud calls for bipartisanship and multilateralism applied only to a strong rather than lame duck President.


Strategypage.com
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20070118.aspx
The Myth of the Broken Army
January 18, 2007: Let's destroy a myth. In this case that sending more American troops to Iraq will "break the army." In reality, it works like this.

The American reinforcement, or "surge" for Iraq will consist of five combat brigades. There are already 15 brigades there (13 army and two marine.) The force for the last three years has, on average, been fifteen brigades. What difference will five brigades make? A brigade has three combat battalions. Each battalion has three companies. Each company has three platoons. Each platoon has 30-40 people available for duty (usually closer to 30, than 40.) You also have about fifty M-1 tanks, 16-18 155mm self-propelled artillery vehicles. Thus out of a force of 3,500 troops, you have about 900 "shooters" (guys with guns who can get out there and do things, like search for weapons, for fight.) It's also become customary to have the artillery crews, and even some of the tank crews, serving as infantry as well. But that only gives you another hundred or so shooters. Thus, sending five more brigades to Iraq, is sending another 5,000 shooters, plus about 15,000 support troops (who are armed, and can at least defend themselves if attacked, and win.)


The U.S. Army is in the midst of a reorganization, which doesn't change the number of troops, or equipment, in a brigade, but does change how they are organized and used. This will not change the above numbers.


The army, marines and reserves an muster about sixty combat brigades. For the last three years, there have been 19 brigades deployed to combat zones (15 in Iraq, three in Afghanistan and one in South Korea.) What the army has been trying to do is keep active duty troops home for two years, and in a combat zone for one year. For reserves, the goal was home for four years, overseas for one. With help from the marines, the army can just about make that.


But with the surge, many troops are going to end up home only half, instead of two-thirds, of the time. What does this do? The army already knows. The more you keep the troops in a combat zone, beyond a certain number of months, the less likely they are to re-enlist. Note that everyone in the army works on employment contracts (of 3-4 years, usually). Not everyone renews their contracts when they expire. But since September 11, 2001, an above average number of people have. This is very important, because people (officer or enlisted) who "re-up" are the most valuable people you can have. They are experienced, many of them "combat experienced." But keep them out there too long, and they will start to leave. Not in large numbers. The U.S. Navy has had the same problem, because of the long deployments at sea sailors often had to endure. That experience enabled them to work out a formula, which calculated the number of sailors they would lose, for a taskforce, for each additional day, beyond the usual six months, they kept them at sea. The army is about to encounter a similar effect. The army is not publicizing their anticipated losses (people who don't re-enlist), but it could be several thousand troops a year (depending on how long additional troops are kept in Iraq.) That doesn't break the army, but does provide more headaches for those in charge of recruiting and retention. The senior generals treat this sort of thing as "losses." Not combat losses, the people who don't re-enlist leave the army in one piece. But the army loses experienced troops at a time when Congress wants them to increase their strength by 65,000 (to 547,000). That's another issue, and another set of myths to demolish.



10 posted on 01/21/2007 2:22:01 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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16 posted on 01/22/2007 8:50:01 AM PST by Tolik
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