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Do Smokers Have Rights? The Science and Politics of Tobacco
Cato Policy Report, vol. XVI, no. 6, ^ | November/December 1994 | William Niskanen,Jane Gravelle

Posted on 01/20/2007 1:19:51 PM PST by sh0tgun willie

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To: Alter Kaker
Amendment XXVIII

You're addicted to the bounty this country provides for you to enjoy...for now.

I think you should be cured of your addiction.

181 posted on 01/20/2007 6:08:06 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: UpAllNight; SheLion
You failed to state the final verdict by the corner:

Coroner Milne's verdict: death from natural causes.

Nice try, I see you make a habit of misleading people and/or stating 'less than factual' data...

That may fly on the obscurity of DC but you have to get your act together here...people are on to you.

182 posted on 01/20/2007 6:08:25 PM PST by NewLand (Always Remember September 11, 2001)
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To: SheLion

Here is something even more sad.

Last August tenth, I was bittten by a poisonous snake in my garden. While in the emergency room, I joked that I'd be needing an ashtray. a nurse came and gave me a stack of literature about how to stop smoking!!! When I asked what was this crap, she said she was required to give it to me. These people are incredible! They have their priorities screwed up. Here I was swelled up like Jabba the Hut, on oxygen, heart monitor, and morphine and maybe even dying and they're worried I'm going to die from smoking. To add insult to injury, these sensitive, caring people sent me home with more literature about how to care for a snake bite wound. It had a nine square inch full color illustration of a rattlesnake in the corner of the first page. Like I needed to be reminded!!!


183 posted on 01/20/2007 6:08:57 PM PST by texaslil (and)
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To: SheLion
She died full of cancer when I was only two. She never smoked in her life.

In the United States, 87% of lung cancer cases are caused by smoking. The percentage is actually higher in most other countries.

The rest of them all smoked and lived well into their late 70's and my other grandmother even lived to be 86, smoking three packs of unfiltered Camels a day!

Like I said, you must be the only person on the planet not convinced that smoking will kill you. I applaud you for your steadfast commitment to your delusion. It's not even shared by your fellow addicts here.

184 posted on 01/20/2007 6:08:59 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: bikerman
Smokers have the right to suck in all the smoke they want I just dont like when they exhale and go into my smoke free zone.

Then feel free to move your smoke free zone.

185 posted on 01/20/2007 6:09:27 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: SheLion
Stop spreading those highly paid professional anti-smoking lies, will you?!

LOL! I wish I were paid to post here!

186 posted on 01/20/2007 6:10:37 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Gabz; Alter Kaker; altura
Here it is Gabz:

American Cancer Society Admits "Mistake" in Ad

53,000 deaths caused from second hand smoke?

click here

The anti-smoking zealots believe they can get away with saying or doing anything if the subject is smoking. This proves they can't if we remain vigilant.

Wanda Hamilton

187 posted on 01/20/2007 6:10:46 PM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: NewLand

--Nice try, I see you make a habit of misleading people and/or stating 'less than factual' data...--

Habit? I posted a link only. I stated no 'less than factual data', if fact I stated nothing. I made no judgement, stated no opinion.


188 posted on 01/20/2007 6:12:26 PM PST by UpAllNight
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To: Malsua; GVNR
I think that eventually we're going to see heath care costs go UP because non smokers live longer and are bigger burden on the health care system than dead smokers.

That's a crock.  You check your obituaries every day and most of the people are very elderly.  Smokers or not, they had to be around second hand smoke at times in their lives and our nursing homes are FULL!!!

189 posted on 01/20/2007 6:12:51 PM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: Alter Kaker

I think you have a great deal of passion on this subject. I am not sure about "earlier, more pain or quality of life." That seems to be subjective. Many diseases cause much worse pain. They are not induced by anything at all..just life.

The original topic seemed to be about government intervention and smoker's rights.


190 posted on 01/20/2007 6:13:15 PM PST by berdie
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To: UpAllNight
I stated nothing

Good summary of your contribution.

191 posted on 01/20/2007 6:14:39 PM PST by NewLand (Always Remember September 11, 2001)
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To: Gabz; altura
That is a computer generated number based upon how many people have died in a given year and how many people are considered smokers or former smokers each year.

Computer generated number? What, exactly, is it that you're smoking?

The 400,000 figure is the number of excess deaths caused by smoking, over what one would expect from a non-smoking population.

It is not a count of the number of dead smokers in a year. That's a blatant falsehood and if you don't know it, you should.

If I were to be run over by a bus while walking tomorrow I would be considered in the death statistics of at least 4 categories: motor vehicle death, even though I was a pedestrian, pedestrian motor vehicle death, tobacco related and alcohol related.

Thank you for playing, but your answer is incorrect. Please try again later.

192 posted on 01/20/2007 6:14:46 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker; SheLion
SheLion has an Enemy's List! LMAO

Glad you're laughing, for now.

193 posted on 01/20/2007 6:16:20 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: texaslil
Last August tenth, I was bittten by a poisonous snake in my garden. While in the emergency room, I joked that I'd be needing an ashtray. a nurse came and gave me a stack of literature about how to stop smoking!!! When I asked what was this crap, she said she was required to give it to me. These people are incredible! They have their priorities screwed up. Here I was swelled up like Jabba the Hut, on oxygen, heart monitor, and morphine and maybe even dying and they're worried I'm going to die from smoking. To add insult to injury, these sensitive, caring people sent me home with more literature about how to care for a snake bite wound. It had a nine square inch full color illustration of a rattlesnake in the corner of the first page. Like I needed to be reminded!!!

Well, you can blame this on the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.  The more bans, control and restrictions hospitals and the health care community puts on smokers, the bigger the grants the RWJ will bestow!

We all know hospitals are desperate for money, and they are chopping off the heads of the smokers to get that funding.  Blood money, I call it!

194 posted on 01/20/2007 6:16:37 PM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: bfree
Your leaps of logic are just outstanding-keep it up.

Where did I go wrong? Given the increase (1) in the number of Americans driving and the number of miles driven since 1945 and (2) the sharp decrease in the motor vehicle fatality rate, why is it wrong to (3) posit that if the motor vehicle fatality rate were today what it was in 1945, that 500,000 or so Americans (rough figure) would die on the roads each year? You can add or subtract 100,000 deaths if you'd like (like I said, it's a back of the envelope figure), but the logic seems sound.

195 posted on 01/20/2007 6:17:57 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
Like I said, you must be the only person on the planet not convinced that smoking will kill you. I applaud you for your steadfast commitment to your delusion. It's not even shared by your fellow addicts here.

Your elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor, do you know it?

196 posted on 01/20/2007 6:18:05 PM PST by SheLion (When you're right, take up the fight!!!!!)
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To: elkfersupper
Glad you're laughing, for now.

When the revolution comes, I'll be first up against the wall?

197 posted on 01/20/2007 6:18:35 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

198 posted on 01/20/2007 6:21:48 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Alter Kaker

Awfully worried about our Constitution for an Israeli national, aren't ya bub?


199 posted on 01/20/2007 6:23:32 PM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: berdie
Many diseases cause much worse pain.

Maybe a few do, but I haven't seen them. I'm an old man and I've seen many people die of many things. I've served in two wars and I've seen people die in horrible ways in combat. I've witnessed a terrorist bombing.

But I've never seen anybody in any more pain than when my sister died of lung cancer. Maybe she was a special case, I'm not an oncologist and I can't say I have a wealth of personal experience, but seeing her scream and flop around in agony, as the doctors injected morphine directly into her spinal column (the fastest way to get it to her brain) really scarred me. If there are more painful ways to die, I hope I never see them.

200 posted on 01/20/2007 6:23:37 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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