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Conservative core seeks a contender
The Los Angeles Times ^ | January 20, 2007 | Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 01/20/2007 11:06:08 AM PST by Clintonfatigued

For decades, the conservative movement has been the animating force of the Republican Party, providing the ideas and energy that catapulted candidates to the GOP presidential nomination and, often, the White House.

But as conservatives survey the 2008 field — and, particularly, the early Republican front-runners — many are despairing. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani have all broken with conservative orthodoxy at one time or another. Many activists have neither forgiven nor forgotten.

"There's absolutely no contender that is a bona fide conservative," said K.B. Forbes, who has worked for a number of conservative candidates and causes since the 1990s. "We have insiders, squishes and moderates running for president."

The candidate closest to the heart of social conservatives, Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, plans to formally launch his White House bid today with a speech in Topeka. But even those who admire Brownback, and especially his Senate leadership opposing abortion, same-sex marriage and stem-cell research, question the viability of his candidacy.

"Brownback has to prove he can win," said Richard Land, head of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant denomination.

Land sees different problems for the three leading GOP hopefuls. "Most social conservatives at present are uncomfortable with McCain," he said. "They're appalled by Giuliani." As for Romney, Land said, "He has to convince social conservatives he's become one of them."

It's a striking state of affairs, given the ascendance of the conservative movement since 1964. Although he was crushed in the general election that year, Arizona's Barry Goldwater wrested the Republican Party from its Midwest and Eastern roots, starting a realignment that eventually turned the GOP into the party of Ronald Reagan, the Sunbelt and the

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To: Dog Gone

You are correct that it will be a vote against Mormonism, the older evangelicals will not vote for Romney based on that.

That would split an otherwise core voting group. We need a candidate who can unite. Romney is not that person.


41 posted on 01/20/2007 11:58:44 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: onyx; Dog Gone

I know that he hasn't held any elected office.

Thats one of the reasons WHY I like him - he ISN'T a politican!

Yes, his chances are extremely slim but I still like him and would vote for him in a heartbeat!


42 posted on 01/20/2007 11:59:31 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Dog Gone
If I had to guess, it's going to end up being a Guiliani/Romney ticket or vice versa.

Then Hillary is our next president.

43 posted on 01/20/2007 12:01:15 PM PST by freedomdefender
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To: Battle Axe
"older evangelicals will not vote for Romney"

He can't carry Florida.

44 posted on 01/20/2007 12:02:08 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Clintonfatigued

The LA Times writes a story like this, totally ignoring (on purpose, IMO) a bona fide conservative right in their own back yard!

DUNCAN HUNTER is that man!

http://www.issues2002.org/CA/Duncan_Hunter.htm


45 posted on 01/20/2007 12:02:17 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: jwalsh07
Hunter does not have the executive experience to make it in a National Presidential election.

Tell me, when was the last time this country has elected a State Level Representative to the Presidency? There is also the money factor, public popularity, proven executive credibility not to mention gravitas.

The current political climate demands a moderate candidate excluding party affiliation. Neither party can win if they run on the most extreme side of their ideology. Both Party's are prone to this fact. And forget about even the most remote possibility that a 3rd party candidate can win.
46 posted on 01/20/2007 12:02:38 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: stm
And the fact that JEB does not want the job in any way shape or form is a shame. He was one of the best Governors FL has ever had.

I wouldn't rule him out in the future. If his name was Jeb Patterson, he'd be a mortal lock for the nomination this time. But "Bush Fatigue" dooms him in 2008 and he knows it.

47 posted on 01/20/2007 12:04:22 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: loreldan
I haven't seen any statistics that said turnout for Independents and usual non-voters was higher than normal.

You don't have any proof that "conservatives stayed home" either too.

48 posted on 01/20/2007 12:04:25 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
We lost almost 100,000 KIA in III.
It wasn't "cold."
49 posted on 01/20/2007 12:04:56 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That's why there should be a Giuliani/Hunter or a Romney/Hunter ticket for 2008.


Yeah, and then pray for an act of God to put a conservative in the Presidency the week after the inauguration.


50 posted on 01/20/2007 12:05:49 PM PST by freedomfiter2 ("Modern, bureaucratic, unionized education is a form of intellectual child abuse." Newt Gingrich)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The Media will point out his War Monger tendencies,...

Could you point out (specifically) his war mongering tendencies?

51 posted on 01/20/2007 12:05:52 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: proudofthesouth; Dog Gone

A non pol seeking the highest elected office in our land is somehow qualified?

Perhaps so, but leaders attract large followings and Cox literally has none.

I welcome all voices --- I want a full field of GOP candidates so that GOOD ideas are brought forth and debated and lousy ideas are refuted.

For example, I won't even consider voting for Brownback in the primary, but I like his flat tax proposal and look forward that issue being brought forth on the nation stage.


52 posted on 01/20/2007 12:07:49 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Tell me, when was the last time this country has elected a State Level Representative to the Presidency?

Arguably nearly 130 years ago. James Garfield had been appointed Senator by the state legislature (back when we did it that way), but received the Republican nomination and was elected before he could be sworn in as Senator.

Other than that unusual case, none, zero, zilch.

53 posted on 01/20/2007 12:07:59 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Battle Axe

Is Duncan Hunter this person??????


Seems like it.


54 posted on 01/20/2007 12:08:41 PM PST by freedomfiter2 ("Modern, bureaucratic, unionized education is a form of intellectual child abuse." Newt Gingrich)
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To: proudofthesouth

It would make more sense if this John Cox person is a cybersquatter hoping Christopher Cox will buy up the cox2008.com domain.


55 posted on 01/20/2007 12:08:46 PM PST by Eroteme
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To: airborne
It's gonna be Rudy ...Romney...or McCaine.

The nominee will need a full ground game and 20 mill cash by Sep....only star power can pull that off.

Anyone like Hunter who is totally unknown at this point is already toast.

Could be angling for a VP slot tho.
56 posted on 01/20/2007 12:09:33 PM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: Blackirish

Agreed.


57 posted on 01/20/2007 12:10:07 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: onyx
But a conservative who has held office (and still currently doing so), is continually elected by his constituency (electable), and represents a portion of the great state of Texas has formed an exploratory committee.

Unfortunately he will face an uphill battle against the 'mainstream' Republican party even though 99% of his stances are representative of Classical Liberalism and far more conservative than anything we've seen since Reagan. He's even a Republican!!

58 posted on 01/20/2007 12:11:05 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: onyx

I'm not sure I'd waste any further electrons discussing Cox. You have a better chance of being elected President.


59 posted on 01/20/2007 12:11:25 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Clintonfatigued

We DO have REAL conservatives running for President. One is Duncan Hunter and another one is Tom Tancredo. I wish they would join together as a team. I would prefer it to be Hunter/Tancredo, but if it's Tancredo/Hunter, I would still be delighted!!!


60 posted on 01/20/2007 12:11:53 PM PST by NRA2BFree
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