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To: DrDeb
They keep saying that Iraq is another Vietnam. Is it?

Where are the riots.. Where are the tens of thousands of protesters marching in the streets.

Where are the Kent States with the National Guard called out in order to maintain order on college campuses.

Where is the equivalent of the students chanting by the thousands. "Hey Hey LBJ How many people did you kill today"

Where are the huge protests of the war in Iraq?

There are only a few.and they are mostly conducted by 60 something hippies. I have heard that some of them have even bathed at least once since Vietnam. But we know that what they do stinks.

What we have is primarily the media and academia that are really opposed to the war in Iraq.

Consider that it was the Washington post blowing the Virginia campaign out of the water and the corruption of the Taft administration in Ohio that gave the Democrats the Senate. Without those two things it would have been a Republican Senate 51 to 49.

If you look at the house races you will see what the anti-illegal immigration story did to Republican chances.

A significant number of anti illegal immigration candidates lost..

Has it occurred to anyone to ask why the illegal Mexican immigration situation became such a big issue in the press in 2006? It had been going on since the last Mexican immigration bill was passed way back in the Reagan Administration.

During the Clinton administration and the first 5 years of the Bush administration millions of illegal Mexicans came to the USA with out the media or the Democrats making a whimper.

It was widely reported that from the early nineties to the 2004 election the number of citizens of Mexican descent who voted Republican had grown from the teens to over 35 percent. It was expected that the Mexican vote would go well over 40 percent for Republicans in 2008.

Once that number went over 50 percent the Democrats chances of winning control of the house, senate or the presidency were reduced slim and none.

It seems to me that Democrats and the media were well aware of that fact. And used that knowledge to split a few percent of support from the Republican party.

I think the media knew what they were doing with Mexican immigration and Iraqi war coverage. It contributed to the Loss of the House and senate.

100 posted on 01/19/2007 7:13:19 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator

You have said what I wish I said but you were so much better. Thank you.


120 posted on 01/19/2007 7:51:54 PM PST by mojo114
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To: Common Tator

***It seems to me that Democrats and the media were well aware of that fact. And used that knowledge to split a few percent of support from the Republican party.

I think the media knew what they were doing with Mexican immigration and Iraqi war coverage. It contributed to the Loss of the House and senate.***


124 posted on 01/19/2007 7:56:45 PM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: Common Tator

Very interesting and thought provoking as always


126 posted on 01/19/2007 7:58:47 PM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: Common Tator

Thank you for your post CT. I have just one thing to say about it...

As I read it, I wondered "why?" Why has the immigration issue become such a front and center discussion under Bush and not Clinton? I lived here in San Diego county when Reagan gave the first amnesty and thought "ohhh, that's kind of him." Then in the ensuing years the influx continued and my town has largely become half barrio. Illegals everywhere, crowding into apts and homes, sleeping in the bushes under my windows, etc.

I could have put up with that, as I understand the value of their labors here, and heck, we need them.

But, 9/11 happened, and suddenly the light was turned on - our borders are porous and we're not safe.

The OTM (other than mexicans) also pour across the unchecked border crossings.

It's a security issue CT, pure and simple.

Our lovely President says he wants to protect the homeland, but then leaves the borders open. That is very perplexing to me, and I'm still trying to sort out his motivations.

The media and liberals are of one mind, and just take advantage of this. But somehow, I expect more from our Republican leadership. So far, so bad.

Now I've done it - mentioned immigration on this thread in a negative manner, so I will excuse myself and leave.

No need for anyone to shoo me away - I'm gone. Hanging up on myself, as Hugh Hewitt would say - LOL. But YOU started it!


160 posted on 01/20/2007 7:16:45 AM PST by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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To: Common Tator
Thank you for the great post. A few comments, if I may.

They keep saying that Iraq is another Vietnam. Is it?

No, it is not.
However, since November 7th they have been ratcheting up the efforts to turn it into Vietnam.

Where are the riots.. Where are the tens of thousands of protesters marching in the streets. Where are the huge protests of the war in Iraq?

They are coming to DC next Saturday. They estimate 100,000 will attend. There are buses charted to bring the commies in from Chicago, New York and other points I cannot remember at this time.

You can check here for updates: D.C. Chapter's Winter Patriots Rally for Op. Iraqi Freedom and 'Antiwar' Counter 1/27/07

Where are the Kent States with the National Guard called out in order to maintain order on college campuses.

Many subversive and criminal activities have been taking place all across the nation for some time now. Are they large scale at this time? No, but Kent State did not occur at the beginning of their efforts.

There are only a few and they are mostly conducted by 60 something hippies... But we know that what they do stinks.

The 60's commies are certainly the ones behind organizing their activities, but there are plenty of young people involved and being recruited on our campuses today. Yes, we know what they do stinks. The question is; what do WE plan on doing about it before their "movement" attains Vietnam era results?

What we have is primarily the media and academia that are really opposed to the war in Iraq.

Primarily? Perhaps
Subject to change? Definitely!

The time to act is NOW before they claim, "Mission Accomplished"

170 posted on 01/20/2007 10:55:28 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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