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Giuliani's Abortion Record Should Hearten Pro-Lifers
Human Events ^ | 1/18/20007 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 01/18/2007 9:27:26 AM PST by Dark Skies

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To: Antoninus

Thanks ... It's a matter of principle.


201 posted on 01/18/2007 11:13:06 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: areafiftyone

"Doesn't look like he would choose pro-choice Justices to me."

This is nothing but hollow campaign statements that you keep touting as gospel. Here are his words too:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163223,00.html

"GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he [Roberts] fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category.

I mean, she was — she maybe came at it from a very different political background, very qualified lawyer, very smart person. "



202 posted on 01/18/2007 11:13:07 AM PST by FreeInWV
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To: onyx
Apparently, a lot of posters here have no idea about what it takes to mount successful campaings.

Sure, it takes money. Do you know how much Hunter has raised to date?
203 posted on 01/18/2007 11:14:08 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: My GOP

The lesson of 2006 is Republicans lose when they don't carry the GOP Base.


204 posted on 01/18/2007 11:14:43 AM PST by GulfBreeze (Proverbs-"A fool says in his heart, there is no God."-Meaning: God doesn't believe atheists exist.)
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To: My GOP
That was the lesson of 2006.

The lesson of 2006 (and 1992) was that the GOP loses elections when they stop acting like Republicans.

205 posted on 01/18/2007 11:14:45 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - a candidate who doesn't need infomercials to convince you he's a conservative)
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To: areafiftyone; Antoninus
Because with him as the nominee, there will DEFINITELY be a viable 3rd Party candidate running to his right. -------------------------------------------------- That argument that Rudy will split off the base only makes sense if the base didn't like Rudy...

Poll after poll after friggin poll shows the base LIKES Rudy.

The only thing splitting are the FR Rudy haters headaches when they read those polls.
206 posted on 01/18/2007 11:15:49 AM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: My GOP

Hunter, because he doesn't have to backpedal and lie to appeal to conservatives (and I don't mean people like you).


207 posted on 01/18/2007 11:15:59 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.")
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To: Antoninus

Not a clue, do you?
How much does John McCain have?
Mitt?
Guiliani?
Tancredo is looking for a million to run in Iowa.


208 posted on 01/18/2007 11:16:05 AM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: dirtboy

"I'm sure 66 million years ago that the dinosaurs thought those puny mammals would never amount to anything."

That's the strangest analogy I've ever heard and how it relates to politics, I have no idea. Plus I'm sure dinosaurs didn't think rationally anyways.


209 posted on 01/18/2007 11:16:40 AM PST by My GOP
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To: My GOP
And the point I was making, GOP primaries voters should make electability in the general election a vital part of who they vote for in the primaries and in my opinion, Rudy has the best chance of winning the general so primary voters should take this into consideration.

Excellent statement of politics over principles. Frankly, I find this attitude cowardly and intellectually vacant.
210 posted on 01/18/2007 11:17:14 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: Antoninus

"If he got the nomination, would you vote for him?"

I'll vote for whoever the GOP nominee is. I'll do anything to keep Hillary and Obama out of the White House. How about you?


211 posted on 01/18/2007 11:17:58 AM PST by My GOP
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To: My GOP
LOL. You're kidding, right?

You guys keep saying that. I love the fact that you're underestimating Hunter to such a degree...
212 posted on 01/18/2007 11:18:05 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: GulfBreeze
The lesson of 2006 is Republicans lose when they don't carry the GOP Base.



The base turned out in 06 it was the moderates and libertarians that left in droves.
213 posted on 01/18/2007 11:18:05 AM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: bornacatholic

Dear bornacatholic,

I understand your position.

It parallels my views about killing abortionists.

I'm against killing abortionists.

You're against killing abortionists.

Every decent and civilized person is against killing abortionists.

But who are WE to impose our moral values on folks who believe otherwise? People who want to kill abortionists may not share our moral values, our philosophical systems, our religious beliefs.

Certainly, we should all back measures to DISCOURAGE killing abortionists. Perhaps, we should make abortionist killers have to read an informed consent document explaining to them what happens to the abortionist as he's shot, gassed, or blown-up. Perhaps a 24-hour waiting period?

And for minors, of course! Parental notification (with judicial override, of course)!

We want abortionist killing to be rare. But safe and legal.

Right??


sitetest


214 posted on 01/18/2007 11:18:57 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Antoninus

And I love how you guys have no grasp of political realities.


215 posted on 01/18/2007 11:20:03 AM PST by My GOP
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To: Dark Skies; Hildy

So, are you two saying there's nobody good on national security who is also pro-life? Are you saying that one can be good on national security while being pro-amnesty?


216 posted on 01/18/2007 11:20:05 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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To: areafiftyone
Oh and who would that be??? There are no conservatives running for third party. I can guarantee it.

It will be someone *pretending* to be a conservative (you know, kind of like Rudy is doing). He'll run mainly on the immigration issue. If Rudy got the nomination (God forbid!), I'd bet someone like Lou Dobbs will run.

Again, fair warning...
217 posted on 01/18/2007 11:20:13 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: GulfBreeze

You're mistaking the blackmail fringe for the base.

Common error.

The BASE always votes.


218 posted on 01/18/2007 11:20:32 AM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: Antoninus
Again, fair warning...

ROTFLOL! You say that with a straight face from solid BLUE New Jersey! LOL-LOL-LOL

219 posted on 01/18/2007 11:22:15 AM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: sitetest

I might be giving Rudy too much credit, but I wonder if he's not the source of some of this cynical crap. Remember, liberal Republicans will never be satisfied until they get a candidate in the White House who could get the Planned Parenthood endorsement as a Dem. Lots of them must see Giuliani as their best hope for that.


220 posted on 01/18/2007 11:22:26 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ("Safe sex? Not until they develop a condom for the heart."--Freeper All the Best)
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