Note: this topic is from 1/17/2007. Thanks Hal1950. One of *those* topics.
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Posted on 01/17/2007 10:38:52 AM PST by Hal1950
I don't know who "you folks" are. If your response to my post isn't responsive, but simply a reason to smear "you folks" who apparently don't share your worldview about something, then we really have nothing to talk about.
If your response to someone who sees something differently than you is to automatically call them a racist or anti-semite, then that speaks far more about you than anything else you might say.
I'm not laughing at rednecks, catholics, jews, or anyone else. And I'm no longer laughing about you. There's something very wrong with you and it's not funny.
A Holocaust denier is an anti-Semite. Someone who denies the events of the Torah is an ultra-mega-kilo-anti-Semite.
I'm not laughing at rednecks, catholics, jews, or anyone else. And I'm no longer laughing about you. There's something very wrong with you and it's not funny.
Can you even read the Bible (it's in Hebrew, not English)? If not then you certainly aren't qualified to comment on its Divine origin or its accuracy.
That is lunacy. The Holocaust is something which can be independently verified apart from some Jewish textbook.
To question some of the accounts of the Torah is not anti-semitic in any sense. That's just nuts. You might falsely, but more reasonably, accuse me of being anti-religious for questioning it, but you're making a leap that is illogical, and frankly shameful.
Placemark
I don't know if they did or not. I assume not, because we've been struggling to pinpoint the date of the eruption for some time, and an egyptian reference would pin it down.
The Theran eruption should have been visible to ancient Egypt, but the prevailing winds should have been been toward Canaan and parts east, so there may have been no real impact on Egypt at all.
Funny how anything in the TaNa"KH requires verification from another source but the histories of the ancient pagan nations are accepted at face value.
I also wonder just how much of human historical knowledge would meet your test.
To question some of the accounts of the Torah is not anti-semitic in any sense. That's just nuts. You might falsely, but more reasonably, accuse me of being anti-religious for questioning it, but you're making a leap that is illogical, and frankly shameful.
No, it is shameful for Bible-bashers to pretend that the Bible isn't Jewish. I'm sorry, but anti-Semitism is opposition to "Semitism," and if "Semitism" isn't the Torah, then what is it? Woody Allen movies? Lenny Bruce comedy routines? Turn of the last century needletrade unions? Yiddish theater? Sorry, the purest form of "Semitism" is Biblical religion.
The free ride of atheists attacking the Jewish Bible by associating it with "ignorant hillbillies" is over. Live with it.
I suggest you read the article posted the other day written by this liberal hypocrite who attacked Mitt Romney for his religious beliefs but then said that that isn't the same as attacking someone's "religious heritage." "Heritage" without the beliefs is nothing but moonbeams. Keep that in mind the next time you insist you aren't "attacking anyone" when you're attacking someone for what he actually believes to be true. Or just scroll a little higher in this thread and see my post on Mircea Elieade (mach shemo!)--a former member of the murderously anti-Semitic Romanian Iron Guard, btw.
You're equating the Torah with the Jews. One is a historical and religious document, and the other is a religion and race of people. Writings, people, two different things.
Whether you like it or not, it's perfectly reasonable for anyone to question whether the Torah is in an infallible history book or whether it might be something less. It's no reflection on the Jews if it's something less than 100% accurate. It is what it is, no matter what your opinion, or mine, is about it.
Nobody has suggested that the Torah isn't Jewish. Where do you make this crap up?
And keep in mind that I didn't attack anyone on this thread with my comment you responded to with allegations of septic tank anti-semitism.
You can have the last word. I've established to my satisfaction that you are a nasty poster with no constructive arguments or thoughts to offer. So have at it if it makes you feel more self-righteous.
I think the eruption was the Pillar of Fire by Night and Pillar of Cloud by Day.
Of course, that only works as a beacon to Canaan if you're coming from Iraq or possibly Saudi Arabia.
If you're using it to exit Egypt, you hit the beach going north. It doesn't work.
Yes. I was. The more I study and read about the archeological record, the more clearly two conclusions become apparent. First, there are many educated people who desperately want Judaism and Christianity not to be true. They will seize on any interpretation, alter their analytical techniques arbitrarily and inconsistently, and use their God given gift of reason to prove that yea is actually nay as often as necessary to make God conform to their preferred world view. I used to be one of them until several life disasters proved to me that no matter how good I thought I was, God is the only one in control. Since I became born again, God has proved himself over and over and over.
Second, the biblical record has never been disproved. Some interpretations of that record may be inconsistent with the current state of the archeological record, but that only means that either our interpretation was wrong (and therefore we use our reason to better understand God's word) or that the historians and archeologists are wrong (as with the assertions that the Hittites never existed or that certain of the Babylonian and Persian kings were incorrectly identified). What I find particularly remarkable is the hubris of evolutionists who claim that evolution is a proven fact or at least the only acceptable theory--despite a remarkable paucity of evidence in the paleontological record--on the grounds that the paleontological record is woefully incomplete. On the flip side, many archeologists pretend to prove that an event didn't happen because they have not found evidence of that event in the archeological record.
All my life I have had to endure smirking atheists tearing the TaNa"KH to shreds (in the name of "exposing chr*stianity") while simultaneously proclaiming their "great love" for the Jewish People. I vividly remember the old sodomite Gore Vidal making a claim like this on one of the old TV talk shows. Meanwhile, I had to endure being told that people such as myself were "anti-Semites" because we believed in the authenticity of the Jewish Bible!
The whole purpose of my life is to re-associate the Jewish G-d and Scriptures with the Jewish People, and to disassociate them from anti-Semitic religions. Before I die I hope to see the Jewish G-d, Jewish Torah, and Jewish People so firmly associated with one another in the mind of the world that people with have difficulty telling the difference among the three. After all, Qaddisha' Berikh Hu', ve'Orayta', veYisra'el, chad hu'!
You are wasting your time arguing with me. Higher Biblical criticism IS higher anti-Semitism--always has been, always will be.
And I have the satisfaction of seeing that bastard Vidal in bed with Pat Buchanan now!
You want to see what you're up against? Vist my web site!
Note: this topic is from 1/17/2007. Thanks Hal1950. One of *those* topics.
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I’m pretty Herodotus was the source for that. The only problem is, Herodotus was a far removed in time from the building of the pyramids as we are from him, i.e. about 2,500 years.
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