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Biden Wants Confederate Flag Off Grounds
AP via SFGate ^ | 1/15/7 | JIM DAVENPORT

Posted on 01/15/2007 9:38:08 AM PST by SmithL

Columbia, S.C. -- Sen. Joseph Biden, a Democratic presidential hopeful joining fellow Sen. Christopher Dodd at Martin Luther King Jr. holiday events, said Monday he thinks the Confederate flag should be kept off South Carolina's Statehouse grounds.

"If I were a state legislator, I'd vote for it to move off the grounds — out of the state," the Delaware senator said before the civil rights group held a march and rally at the Statehouse here to support its boycott of the state.

In Chicago, Sen. Barack Obama, also prominently mentioned in speculation about the White House sweepstakes in 2008, was a hit at a Rainbow/PUSH Coalition breakfast honoring King, even if he didn't deliver what much of the crowd clearly wanted: a declaration that he will run for president.

Obama received a standing ovation at the annual King scholarship breakfast when the Rev. Jesse Jackson introduced him with an approving reference to the Illinois Democrat's presidential aspirations.

"It's a long, nonstop line between the march in Selma in 1965 and the inauguration in Washington in 2009," said Jackson, the coalition's founder and a one-time presidential candidate himself.

Later, in an address at a King remembrance service at St. Mark's Church in suburban Harvey, Obama said: "I'm not making news today. I'm not here to make news. There will be a time for that."

More than six years after the Confederate flag was taken down from the South Carolina Capitol dome, its location in front of the Statehouse remains an issue at the heart of events celebrating Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy.

Jim Hanks stood across from the Statehouse with about 35 Confederate flag supporters.

"We love this flag. We love our heritage," said Hanks, of Lexington.

Some carried signs saying: "South Carolina does not want Chris Dodd,"...

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: arrogantyankees; biden; cbf; confederteflag; crossofsaintandrew; damnyankees; dixie; saintandrewscross; yankeearsonist; yankeeknowitalls
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To: XRdsRev
Another overlooked and totally outrageous SC moment was when Senator John Kerry (D-MA) announced his candidacy for POTUS at the Congressional Medal of Honor Museum, USS Yorktown, Charleston SC.

I have always been appalled that Kerry tried to steal the other (Bob-NE) Kerry's thunder, and that both the good people of MA and SC said very little about such a breathtaking fraud.
81 posted on 01/15/2007 11:48:45 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: silentreignofheroes
What was that,,,? Atlanta Burning,Women Raped,Kids Shot,Stock Killed,,what should we remember??,tell us (or just myself) and I'm sure We'll Never Forget.

Cling to all the southron myths you wish. But the one fact you cannot wish away is that you lost your rebellion.

82 posted on 01/15/2007 11:49:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: lentulusgracchus
Here two idiot Democratic senators make gratuitous and off-topic comments about a South Carolina Civil War Memorial, and you're ready to burn down the state again.

Only if they rebel again. Otherwise I have absolutely no interest in what they do, which flag they choose to fly, or where they fly it.

Go crawl back under your rock and nurse your Billy Sherman picture and your contempt of the South some more. In silence, please.

Ummm...no.

83 posted on 01/15/2007 11:51:44 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; silentreignofheroes
.....you lost your rebellion......

There was no rebellion.

If you think there was, prove it. Show me the documentation, show me the appeals from governors and legislatures declaring insurrection and calling for assistance from the federal government.

Show me, if you can. Of course, you can't.

84 posted on 01/15/2007 11:54:42 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Non-Sequitur

At least you can spell "Southron".We didn't lose,the Constitution lost.


85 posted on 01/15/2007 11:54:43 AM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

What do you mean "lost"? It ain't over yet. As long as people like Dodd and Biden are still attacking us it is still on. You think we aren't gonna fight back? I am a former U.S. Marine and proud to be so, BUT I am also a loyal Southerner and will always fight for the conservative views we continue to stand for.


86 posted on 01/15/2007 11:58:08 AM PST by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH
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To: SmithL
Yea, this is the ticket for them, alienate the whole South with a faux flag issue. /s
87 posted on 01/15/2007 12:03:19 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
There was no rebellion.

Sure there was. It was in all the papers.

Show me the documentation, show me the appeals from governors and legislatures declaring insurrection and calling for assistance from the federal government.

Irrelevant. They first defied and initiated an armed opposition to the authority of the federal government, and then they lost. That meets the definition of rebellion.

Show me, if you can. Of course, you can't.

I'll let history speak for me.

88 posted on 01/15/2007 12:04:42 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: L98Fiero

Justin Wilson said he married a girl from "way, way up North...up around Shreveport."


89 posted on 01/15/2007 12:04:43 PM PST by Texas Mulerider
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To: SmithL

Why dont these carpet bagging butt holes go back to their own states and solve the problems of their own blacks.

I realise Conn. doesnt have many ,but I would bet the ones there have plenty of complaints to keep Old Dodd busy. Certainly Delaware has their own problems.


90 posted on 01/15/2007 12:05:35 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: silentreignofheroes
At least you can spell "Southron".

Long years of practice.

We didn't lose,the Constitution lost.

Hardly.

91 posted on 01/15/2007 12:05:41 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: L98Fiero
....not exactly a "Northern" state."

Nor is it exactly a "Southern" state, with its large population of Philthadelphian transplants.

92 posted on 01/15/2007 12:06:33 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: SmithL

Calling Joe Biden a Presidential Hopeful is a joke. The only one who hopes he can win is his wife. It would keep him too busy to bother her.


93 posted on 01/15/2007 12:06:59 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: Texas Mulerider

Justin Wilson said he married a girl from "way, way up North...up around Shreveport."

"I gar-on-teee!"

You know, that may be the bit I'm thinking of instead of Clower.


94 posted on 01/15/2007 12:13:54 PM PST by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

YEEEEE----HHAAAWWWWWWW!!!!

We're born knowin'..


95 posted on 01/15/2007 12:17:42 PM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I'll let history speak for me.

Except for this part, no doubt:

"If you bring these [Confederate] leaders to trial it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution secession is not rebellion." -- Salmon P. Chase, SCOTUS Chief Justice, 1865 *

*Shelby Foote, The Civil War,Vol. 3, p. 726

96 posted on 01/15/2007 12:27:30 PM PST by Texas Mulerider
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To: Texas Mulerider
"If you bring these [Confederate] leaders to trial it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution secession is not rebellion." -- Salmon P. Chase, SCOTUS Chief Justice, 1865 *

"When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.

Considered therefore as transactions under the Constitution, the ordinance of secession, adopted by the convention and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the acts of her legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law. The obligations of the State, as a member of the Union, and of every citizen of the State, as a citizen of the United States, remained perfect and unimpaired." - Salmon P. Chase, SCOTUS Chief Justice, 1869

97 posted on 01/15/2007 12:31:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: SmithL

He's such a whore.

Just a few weeks ago, he was in SC playing up a slavery angle in hopes of helping his presidential bid.


98 posted on 01/15/2007 12:35:08 PM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
"The Founders did not implement any voting criteria---they just stated that the right to vote for Representative would be the same as for the election of members to the lower house of the state legislature."

Under the Founder's original Constitution -- not all were entitled to vote...

There was some "criteria"....

Our Founder's Constitution required the 19th Amendment to give women the right to vote, and it required the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments to outlaw slavery, grant citizenship to former slaves and children born in America and to grant them the votes...

I still maintain - that under the FOUNDER's Constitution we wouldn't have the current Leftist "Democrat" party -- whose primary base is women, blacks and recent immigrants - both legal and illegal as is apparent....and they are now voting.

Semper Fi

99 posted on 01/15/2007 12:38:30 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Ah, yes. Quoting White v. Texas proves only that Salmon Chase was no more committed to his stated principles than was Congressman Lincoln in 1847.
100 posted on 01/15/2007 12:39:55 PM PST by Texas Mulerider
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