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'Ancient Artefacts Brought Over By Egyptians, Not By Traders' (Malta)
Times Of Malta ^ | 1-13-2007 | Natalino Fenech

Posted on 01/13/2007 3:08:47 PM PST by blam

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1 posted on 01/13/2007 3:08:49 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 01/13/2007 3:09:23 PM PST by blam
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The argument sounds persuasive. I say this from a position of not knowing very much.


3 posted on 01/13/2007 3:15:32 PM PST by Bahbah (.Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: blam

I'm not sure why I should care.


4 posted on 01/13/2007 3:27:12 PM PST by PatrickF4
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How rude. If you don't care fine. Don't click in to the post. Blam does a service here a lot of long time Freepers appreciate. He posts great articles.


5 posted on 01/14/2007 4:10:07 AM PST by ARE SOLE (I thought the Party was supposed to court the voters and not the other way around?)
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To: 75thOVI; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; Brujo; CGVet58; Chani; ..
The earliest Egyptian artefacts date to the end of the third millennium BC, 400 years before the arrival of the Phoenicians, and one continues to find artefacts from various Egyptian civilisations until after the eighth century BC. A statue of an Egyptian triad of gods was found in an abandoned archaeological site in 1713 and has been firmly dated to the 18th Egyptian dynasty, dating back to 1550-1292 BC.
Ba-haw-haw-haw. :') And, there's nothing Phoenician in the western Mediterranean prior to the 10th c BC.

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6 posted on 01/14/2007 8:09:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("I've learned to live with not knowing." -- Richard Feynman https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks Blam.

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7 posted on 01/14/2007 8:10:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("I've learned to live with not knowing." -- Richard Feynman https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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8 posted on 01/14/2007 8:17:01 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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Makes sense to me. I bet Egyptians went all kinds of places. They were a very highly structured society, into mathamatics, astronomy, sun and moon movements. I do not know why they would not have sailed further into the Medditeranean than previously thought. I was just reading the post that there was much more to Stonehenge than we had previously thought. I suspect these ancient people were not as dumb as we would like to think sitting in our 21st century pedestal.
9 posted on 01/14/2007 8:21:19 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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"I suspect these ancient people were not as dumb as we would like to think sitting in our 21st century pedestal."

Yup. Our knowledge base has risen to great heights numerous times. I think catastrophies have knocked them back many times. We're probably due for a good knock now.

10 posted on 01/14/2007 8:28:31 PM PST by blam
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To: ARE SOLE

Thank you!!!


11 posted on 01/14/2007 11:23:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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My chronology puts the XVIII dynasty close enough to the tenth century B.C. that the Phoenicians still could have brought that statue. The XII dynasty artifacts, however, are a different matter. I remember the article saying something about Minoan contact with Malta, too.


12 posted on 01/15/2007 4:19:08 AM PST by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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Yeah. :')


13 posted on 01/15/2007 8:19:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: blam

Why did the author describe the german as "East German?"

Odd.


14 posted on 01/15/2007 8:27:34 AM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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The authors note that though it has always been assumed that it was the Phoenicians who brought the earliest Egyptian artefacts to Malta, the items found here span a time frame that pre-dates the arrival of the Phoenicians in the eighth century BC.

This assumes that the artifacts were brought to Malta near the time of their creation. Why could they not have been imported centuries later, having been sold off in Egypt by a generation who no longer cared for them? Was there anything else excavated in that strata from a different era, or were all the artifacts of like age?

15 posted on 01/15/2007 8:36:34 AM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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"I'm not sure why I should care."

It speaks to how mobile the ancients were, which in turn affects politically correct theories now in vogue. e.g. palestine and Indian gaming.


16 posted on 01/15/2007 9:46:41 AM PST by FastCoyote
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Note: this topic is from 01/13/2007. A re-ping. Thanks blam.

17 posted on 06/20/2016 9:42:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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18 posted on 06/20/2016 9:47:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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Couldn’t the traders have been Egyptians?


19 posted on 06/20/2016 9:49:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Note: this topic is from 01/13/2007. Thanks blam.
And, it's one of *those* topics:
The authors note that though it has always been assumed that it was the Phoenicians who brought the earliest Egyptian artefacts to Malta, the items found here span a time frame that pre-dates the arrival of the Phoenicians in the eighth century BC... A statue of an Egyptian triad of gods was found in an abandoned archaeological site in 1713 and has been firmly dated to the 18th Egyptian dynasty... Four funerary Egyptian stone slabs, known as Egyptian steles, were found in 1829 beneath the foundations of a mid-17th century villa on a promontory in Grand Harbour... dated from the 12th dynasty... Dr Murray also carried out excavations at various sites in Malta, and in her report of 1928, she identified several other Egyptian artefacts that were found in rock tombs in various localities. The most significant find was a ring with a scarab bearing the name of Sebek-hetel, dating to the 13th Dynasty...



20 posted on 06/20/2016 9:52:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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