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Meltdown! The world is feeling the heat of global warming. (Please help me!)
Time for Kids ^ | January 12, 2007 | None listed

Posted on 01/13/2007 6:44:00 AM PST by drellberg

"In 15 years, scientists say, the snows of Kilimanjaro will simply melt away. ... Kilimanjaro is not the only place that is threatened. Glaciers and polar ice are melting. Coral reefs are dying as the seas get too warm. Lakes and rivers in colder climates are freezing later and thawing earlier each year, disrupting the life cycles of native plants and animals. What is causing this breakdown in nature?

(Excerpt) Read more at timeforkids.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarmingfraud
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To: drellberg
This thread has one of the best list of references for the global warming fraud that I have seen. Interesting enough, another fraud out there related to this is the ethanol fraud, including information that burning ethanol in cars, in addition to driving up the price of corn and other grains and contributing to overpumping of groundwater where irrigation is needed, actually produces more CO2 than burning straight gasoline!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1764650/posts?page=12#12

And furthermore, recent MIT research has concluded "that traveling a kilometer using corn ethanol does indeed consume more energy than traveling the same distance using gasoline"!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1765357/posts

Keyword: Ethanol

101 posted on 01/13/2007 1:12:01 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: Steve Van Doorn
There is more to it then that when 80 to 90% of the heat on Earth is from the Earth its self. The earth is basically a lava ball with a thin crust.

You're off by about 99.6%. The Sun contributes almost all of the Earths heat, the heat from the core is negligible.

102 posted on 01/13/2007 1:30:58 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07; kinoxi

This is easy to figure out the Crust temperature is around +15 deg C. Space Temperature is about -270 deg C. That means we get a +285 deg C from the earth.


103 posted on 01/13/2007 1:55:15 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Check your facts. If you've got a link I would love to see it.


104 posted on 01/13/2007 1:57:10 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Steve Van Doorn

No it doesn't. You're right abouth the Earths temperature. The avg surface temp of Earth is about 14C or 287 Kelvins or an energy output of about 385 watts per square meter. The input energy from the Sun is about 350 watts per square meter. Doesn't leave much for the Earths core to do, some might say just enough though.


105 posted on 01/13/2007 2:12:47 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: BurbankKarl
I almost slipped on black ice this morning in LOS ANGELES!!!!!!!

Send some of that snow and ice my way, please. I'm sitting here in DC with my window open, enjoying a balmy 60+ degrees. You have my weather and I have yours.

106 posted on 01/13/2007 2:15:34 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Goodbye, Tomas. Sleep well. (? 1994-Dec 6, 2006))
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To: goldstategop

It will be 9 here tonight. I live in California.


107 posted on 01/13/2007 2:16:18 PM PST by sam I am
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To: sam I am
It will be 9 here tonight. I live in California.

And just a few miles away from me, it was 27 degrees below zero this morning at the Cal-Trans Crestview maintenance station on Highway 395 in California.

108 posted on 01/13/2007 2:47:36 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Pity it didn't hit -40.

The moisture content of air, for all practical purposes, is zero. Supposedly, you can watch your breath freeze to a "powder", and fall to the ground.

That would be interesting to experience. Once would probably be enough for most people, including me.

109 posted on 01/13/2007 3:00:09 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: sionnsar

Wow- that's a beautiful pic...I do miss it sometimes...


110 posted on 01/13/2007 4:10:11 PM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: jwalsh07
Your figures are about right but where is the rest of the heat come from? Remember space is cold.

Every time that you go down a 1.6 km in to the earth, the temperature increases by 22 deg C.

Earths crust is only 30 to 110 Km to the top of the Earth's mantel which is over 1000 deg C.

111 posted on 01/13/2007 4:12:35 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: M0sby

I loved this book, but the BEST part about it was- even though fiction-the extensive sources he then listed in the back.


112 posted on 01/13/2007 4:15:04 PM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: kinoxi

If i am off i am only off by a little. i can not find a good link on it.


113 posted on 01/13/2007 4:18:07 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: moonhawk

I have read that the increase in CO2 levels relate to the increase in forested lands in the northern hemisphere, which is, funnily enough, also where the most developed nations are located. The research continues...


114 posted on 01/13/2007 4:18:11 PM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I think your off by quite a bit. The earth does not generate that much heat, that's why we have seasons.


115 posted on 01/13/2007 4:23:42 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: FreedomNeocon

Bookmark for later.


116 posted on 01/13/2007 4:40:57 PM PST by Scutter
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To: 13Sisters76
Wow- that's a beautiful pic...I do miss it sometimes...

Me too. We get just a bit too little of it here -- people don't know how to drive in it, the counties & cities don't invest enough to quickly clear the roads, and... I like to see it, and it certainly brightens our dark, gloomy Seattle winters.

But it usually means we're also going to lose electricity for a time.

117 posted on 01/13/2007 4:41:35 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: kinoxi
“that's why we have seasons.”

Seasons are a fluctuation of the sun which is only a small change.

Heat from the Earth's mantel gives us heat from -270 deg C to nearly 15 deg C and that is constant that we know of with some fluctuations.

http://www.geophysics.harvard.edu/geodyn/nasa_report/NASA_Final_Report.html

118 posted on 01/13/2007 4:55:43 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Your link doesn't work. Your numbers don't either. The earth is warmed by the Sun. Put your bare feet in the ground if you don't believe me, or better yet educate yourself.


119 posted on 01/13/2007 5:05:20 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: 13Sisters76

"I loved this book, but the BEST part about it was- even though fiction-the extensive sources he then listed in the back."

OH I TOTALLY AGREE!
I usually just trade my paperback books in for new books...
THIS ONE I AM KEEPING!
Funny..if you google the book..there are a ZILLION people discrediting Crichton because he is not a scientist..I read a BUNCH of it and never saw anyone discredit the SCIENTIFIC DATA that he used though!
:-)

Sherry


120 posted on 01/13/2007 5:16:29 PM PST by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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