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Ford said Reagan, who challenged him unsuccessfully for the GOP nomination in 1976, was "a great spokesman for attractive political objectives" such as a balanced budget and defeating communism, "but when it came to implementation, his record never matched his words."

Reagan was "probably the least well-informed on the details of running the government of any president I knew," Ford said. In a separate interview, he said Reagan "was just a poor manager, and you can't be president and do a good job unless you manage."

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sour grapes?


2 posted on 01/12/2007 1:47:49 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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To: NormsRevenge

.. or just ap wringing every little bit of what they can out of the Ford passing? or both. :-}


7 posted on 01/12/2007 1:49:16 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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Reagan was "probably the least well-informed on the details of running the government of any president I knew,"

He's right. Ronnie didn't know anything about taking lobbyist money and making back room deals. He had his big three ideas and he got them implemented, the rest really didn't matter. Simple, but very effective.

8 posted on 01/12/2007 1:51:19 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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Exactly.

An historical footnote's cheap shot at a great man.


20 posted on 01/12/2007 1:59:14 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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But of course, it's sour grapes.


35 posted on 01/12/2007 2:10:29 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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. In a separate interview, he said Reagan "was just a poor manager, and you can't be president and do a good job unless you manage."

Well... this is no doubt why, in the late seventies up to the 1980 election many intellectuals ruminated about the presidence being "just too big for one man." For Carter, yes - it was too big. Carter managed everything down to scheduling of the White House tennis courts. His rather dour re-election TV ads tout this as an asset (see 4president.tv).

Reagan succeeded because he didn't try to micromanage every minute detail. No, he didn't have Carter's IQ but he had a different kind of smarts: inspired leadership, getting the most from people by making us feel good about ourselves as Americans. Reagan didn't HAVE TO do it all precisely because of his leadership skills.

50 posted on 01/12/2007 2:28:37 PM PST by Lexinom (Duncan Hunter 2008 - www.peacethroughstrengthpac.com)
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Ford said. In a separate interview, he said Reagan "was just a poor manager, and you can't be president and do a good job unless you manage."

Ford took a relatively good economy into the toilet and Carter finished the job by flushing it into the sewer.

Ford has confirmed my suspicions that he was not too bright. You know the old saying, it is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it. Ford has confirmed it. Too bad.

71 posted on 01/12/2007 2:56:34 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Yes--sour grapes. [How did Ford have any knowledge of how well informed Reagan was?] Ford will be forgotten--except for being unelected and then pardoning Nixon.


76 posted on 01/12/2007 3:06:56 PM PST by Clara Lou
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Nobody mentions that countries were falling to communism like dominoes during Carter's term, but Reagan stopped that cold, then reversed it. His bold move in Grenada did much to sober up the Kremlin, and to hearten the anticommunist forces in Central America, South America, Africa and Asia. His call to the Kremlin to tear down the wall was heard loud and clear by the people of Eastern Europe, who proceeded to rise up and make their voices heard.


93 posted on 01/12/2007 3:53:02 PM PST by OK
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"was just a poor manager, and you can't be president and do a good job unless you manage."

The difference between Reagan and Ford:

Reagan was a LEADER and Ford was a manager. Ford never understood the difference.


95 posted on 01/12/2007 4:02:11 PM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel
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sour grapes?

I personally like Gerald Ford, but he couldn't hold Reagan's jock strap.

96 posted on 01/12/2007 4:02:14 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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"Ford said Reagan, who challenged him unsuccessfully for the GOP nomination in 1976, was "a great spokesman for attractive political objectives" such as a balanced budget and defeating communism, "but when it came to implementation, his record never matched his words."

Reagan was "probably the least well-informed on the details of running the government of any president I knew," Ford said. In a separate interview, he said Reagan "was just a poor manager, and you can't be president and do a good job unless you manage."

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sour grapes?"

None of these reported denegrating lines makes sense. Either he was senile or they are sliding away from the truth.

Ike was good but Howdy Doody would have been good in those days. None of todays current problems were threatening to crash around his shoulders. The only accurate statement is his saying Bunny Boy was a disaster.


110 posted on 01/12/2007 4:39:21 PM PST by lawdude (2006: The election"s we will live to die for!)
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Reagan was the 2nd president who understood the power of electronic media, the 1st to use it en masse effectively.

Ford did not understand and, as a consequence, was unable to assess RR's presidency in its true effect.

Ford's perspective, values, and style were all rooted in - and only understood by him - in what were essentially linear 1940 terms.


124 posted on 01/12/2007 5:40:06 PM PST by pilipo
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It's obviously sour grapes---Reagan is the one President in my lifetime who people who dismissed him at first come to re-evaluate as far better, and smarter than they originally thought he was. I for one am glad the endless Ford eulogizing is over---the constant theme that was struck was "decency", which should be a starting point for a President, not the entire resume.


150 posted on 01/12/2007 9:53:16 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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Anywhere his record didn't match his words is because "managers" in Congress were kissing Tip O'neil's donkey, instead of fighting and leading.

If Newt adopted Ford's philosophy, there never would have been a revolution in 94.


161 posted on 01/13/2007 5:53:40 AM PST by H.Akston (Jihad - my struggle - mien kampf.)
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Worse than sour grapes... Envy and jealousy. Gerry Ford was a poor president relative to Reagan. He was lucky to be followed by the worst president of our lifetime.

So long, Gerry. Anything good that I thought about you will now be filed away and never brought back to see the light of day.


173 posted on 01/13/2007 9:08:18 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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It is pretty well known, that he never got over the challenge he got from Regan in 76, then after he got bounced by Carter, to see Regan come in and attain icon status really irritated him.

What I will always remember about Ford was that he refused to meet with Soviet dissidents for fear of upsetting the Communists.
186 posted on 01/13/2007 4:28:43 PM PST by NavVet (O)
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Sour grapes?

Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter were both third-rate minds who were incapable of understanding economics. Their confusion was the result of laziness (all they had to do was read Milton Friedman), and hanging out with beltway liberals.

Their habit of publicly criticizing the Republican presidents who followed them showed they were brothers under the skin.

The only useful thing either of them ever did was pave the way for Ronald Reagan through their gross incompetence.

And, of course, neither of them ever forgave Reagan for succeeding.

194 posted on 01/13/2007 6:26:05 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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Ford contended his own negotiation of the Helsinki accords on human rights did more to win the Cold War than Reagan's military buildup

LOL!

195 posted on 01/13/2007 7:10:38 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Ford was angry that Reagan didn't select him for Vice-President in 1980. Reagan didn't want him, but was about to agree as a political compromise until Ford insisted that he would have significant powers as Vice-President. I was never that impressed with Ford, and considered him an okay guy. I became a Republican because of Reagan, and I'm trying to figure out why I'm still one now.


204 posted on 01/13/2007 9:23:06 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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Hey! He was a "Rockyfeller Republican!" Rockyfeller was his V.P.!!! Gerry was also a micromanager, but not quite as bad at it as Jimmah the Demonicrat Dope!!!

So there ya have it! A moderate and a dope! The seventies sucked in America compared to most other decades in the twentieth century!!!

217 posted on 01/14/2007 7:24:38 AM PST by SierraWasp (There is no one else in the hollow "center" with Arnold, except, of course... ARNOLD!!!)
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