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ANOTHER CASE OF "FED UP"! (Vanity)
Personal Experience ^ | January 7, 2007 | Self

Posted on 01/07/2007 1:51:52 PM PST by Hostage

I married 14 years ago and just had my firstborn, a son, this past September.

I met my wife in medical school. She was originally from Lithuania and when I met her she was on a H1-B visa working as an adjunct professor of internal medicine.

She had made significant contributions to medical science and had been asked to lecture at med school for the year. That was 16 years ago in the afterglow of the world of Ronald Reagan. She became a naturalized US citizen in 1996.

We've had a real love affair ever since but children did not come easy for us and we had given up hope the year before last when suddenly our prayers were answered with a 'miracle'. There were no fertility treatments, nothing artificial, just natural in its occurance but unexpected.

The birth of our son has been a joy without limit and it continues to be so. But prior to knowing of the miracle to come we had lived for years in despair (most couples with fertility problems will know exactly what I am talking about).

During those years of despair there was one other person whose despair seemed greater than our own, that was my wife's mother who still lives with her family in Lithuania. She wanted so badly to be a grandmother. She prayed and prayed and prayed. When my wife would call her on Sundays, her mother would always cry and it always fell to my wife to calm her down. This constant weeping, in addition to our own despair, was more than we could take and as a result my wife began to look for excuses not to call her mother.

News of the coming arrival of our son made my wife's mother a changed person. She wanted to come immediately but my wife's father has a herniated disc and cannot move unless heavily dosed with painkillers. We are trying to save money to get for him an operation that we hope will give him many years of freedom to move his body. He would also like to see his grandson.

But grandmother was able to get her sister and her son to look after grandfather while she travels to the US to see her blessed treasure, her grandson.

So we bought her a roundtrip ticket on Scandinavian Airlines and she connected in Copenhagen before setting foot in Seattle last night.

Her son had taken her to the US consulate last week to make sure her visa was in order. As she does not speak English, he wrote her a note (he is fluent in English and works as an IT professional throughout Europe) to present to customs that she was traveling to see her grandson and numbers to call if there were any problems. On the note he wrote our names, address, telephone numbers. He also gave her a cell phone and called me the day before she left to make sure I had her cell number.

Last night grandmother was making her way through customs and we were outside waiting for her with our 3 month old son. We were waiting a longtime when suddenly my cell phone rang and it was a customs official telling me that they needed to contact the daughter of a person they were holding. Knowing they were referring to my wife's mother I said "no problem, her daughter is right here waiting with me" and I handed the phone to my wife.

The customs official asked my wife to talk to her mother and to tell her to answer the questions they were asking her. My wife said she does not speak English and asked what questions did they have for her. They said to ask her if she had any cigars, weapons and so on in her possession. My wife was then put on the phone with her mother and repeated what the customs official had asked. They then let grandmother go.

Grandmother came up an escalator into the international baggage claim area with tears in her eyes and she at once saw me, then my wife and the baby. I thought the tears were of joy but my wife later told me they were tears of fear, fear that customs was going to send her back to Lithuania. But there were also tears and smiles of joy as grandmother and grandson immediately fell in love.

Here's the story and the reason we are "fed up".

Customs had asked grandmother a series of questions and she could not answer. She kept telling them "no English, no English" but they took her out of line and then called for a detail to escort her to a retention room, a room that was according to grandmother a long long way through many doors and up and down many floors. In this room they made her strip to her bra and panties and would not allow her to make any phone calls. She was left in this room crying when the customs lady called us on my cell phone.

She was let go out of the retention room but no one escorted her back to the customs line. She had no idea where she was and how to get back to where she was, in other words she was lost. I haven't asked yet how she found her way out because she is bonding with her long awaited grandchild and I don't want to spoil the happiness we all have now by pressing her for details.

Today she is doting on her grandson and both are all smiles. But her impression of America or at least Seattle SeaTac airport is forever a memory of fear.

I asked her if things went well when connecting in Copenhagen and she said "Copenhagen good, Seattle no good".


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To: Guenevere

Another poster just mentioned the existence of 'escort' passes. Seriously we did not know of them.

She had a cell phone given to her by her son. She had all the numbers to call and was told to call if there were any problems. But they took her phone away from her. But at least they called me and we were able to get her released. But we just didn't think there would be a problem is the bottomline.

When we have passed through customs before we have never had a problem, so we didn't expect one for grandmother. She really is a sweet little old lady. How anyone could think she was harmful is beyond reason.

I've heard of grannies getting pulled out of line and 'wanded' and so on. I too have been scanned and asked about my laptop.

But this was different. She's a foreigner, she doesn't speak the language. We are civilized people and we should do more to welcome people to our great country. The least we could do is put in speaker phones with speed dials to 24/7 interpreters, the same that you see in hospital ERs.

But now thanks to a poster here I am aware of escort passes and believe you me I will be looking into those passes on the next go-round.


161 posted on 01/07/2007 6:54:16 PM PST by Hostage
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To: paulat

65. She is a little hunched over now and has alot of grey hair covering what used to be blond. She has fair skin and a very kind face. She looks as far as one can imagine from anything evil or suspicious.


162 posted on 01/07/2007 6:56:17 PM PST by Hostage
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To: paulat

Unfortunately they wouldn't allow me out on the concourse to meet them. I only found out later when we finally met up.


163 posted on 01/07/2007 7:04:53 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: trussell
It's always nice when you pick the right horse from the beginning ;)

Appaloosa, a horse of all colors that supports strength with leadership!

164 posted on 01/07/2007 7:05:08 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Hostage
This nice lady tried to assassinate President Ford.


165 posted on 01/07/2007 7:07:07 PM PST by donna
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To: EGPWS

And beautiful creatures that they are...they are usually the most popular.


166 posted on 01/07/2007 7:08:00 PM PST by trussell
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To: Hostage

The buck has to stop somewhere and I put it directly on the desk of President Bush. He nominated Moron Mineta to head the DOT and has made no effort to reverse that mistake.


167 posted on 01/07/2007 7:15:37 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Hostage
As I am sure you read my 1st post I said how sorry I was for your mother in law. Which I am. I give her credit for coming her without knowing English and even flying..... I don't know how my grandmother came to America without knowing a word of English , went through Ellis Island and made it to Sugar loaf PA. I don't think I could have done it ....... But to respond to you post.....She looks as far as one can imagine from anything evil or suspicious........I am sure she doesn't look like a terrorist. Can you tell me what one looks like??? I have never seen one. I am not being rude , I just want to point out to you that they come in all shapes and sizes, from all countries and all ages..... I am mad as hell this happened to your mother in law. I think to make her strip to her undies was terrible...... BUT we can't have it both ways. We have to screen everyone and ask questions for our country to be safe. Maybe they need to have a little more training at the airports........ I would write, call and complain to everyone I could think of. She was treated rudely. Thats for sure....... AND to think they just put airport workers through courses on how to deal with Muslims who are flying to Mecca.... I hope grandma is having a blast with the baby.~~Pandora~~
168 posted on 01/07/2007 7:18:40 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: rockrr
Welcome to Amerika...

Life's a b!tch and then one comes to America.....

Why, oh why, aren't the "way of life disgruntled" leaving and not coming back?

Obviously life is better outside of the good 'ol USA.

169 posted on 01/07/2007 7:21:11 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS

You're right EGPWS...It "ain't" so bad

 

Edgar Winter Group ~ Back In The USA

 


170 posted on 01/07/2007 7:21:51 PM PST by trussell
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To: pandoraou812
"Can you tell me what one looks like??? I have never seen one."

Sure. They look like this.
171 posted on 01/07/2007 7:27:55 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: rockrr
Welcome to Amerika...

To show such disrespect for America, in my opinion, makes you the "imbecile". Don't like it? Nobody is forcing you to stay!

172 posted on 01/07/2007 7:28:13 PM PST by trussell
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To: nkycincinnatikid
Customs Officials are exceptionaly powerful. The only real limits to their authority seems to be the fear of politically powerful interest groups such as the Muslims and Hispanics posess. I feel terrible about what occured and hope the karma catches up with SOB's who did this. Lok to the happinees about your child and let it go.

When you think about it, would their actions be so different if they had, in fact, been infiltrated and taken over by foreign powers who's interest and goals are quite different then that of the American citizens?

173 posted on 01/07/2007 7:28:18 PM PST by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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To: rockrr
Thanks.... I meant I never saw one in person. But you did leave out pictures of the grandmother who recently was a suicide bomber in the name of Allah, and pictures of the children soldiers of Afghanistan and other Muslim countries. And the countless martyrs that blow themselves up etc. Terrorists come from many different countries, come in all ages and sizes. We can't say we want security then complain when we get it. I am very sorry for this grandmother and I feel she was treated rudely. I would be writing and calling my senator and congressman tomorrow.
174 posted on 01/07/2007 7:39:19 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812
"But you did leave out pictures of the grandmother who recently was a suicide bomber in the name of Allah..."

Actually, she looks a lot like the one on the bottom row, third from the right...
175 posted on 01/07/2007 7:48:54 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Hostage

A day late and a dollar short...Better luck next time!


Are you still going to get Grandma's picture taken?


176 posted on 01/07/2007 8:02:29 PM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: rockrr

Rofl Thanks I needed a laugh. Now if you could deliver one to me I could get all my anger out on someone besides my husband.....efg


177 posted on 01/07/2007 8:46:34 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812; Hostage
"Now if you could deliver one to me I could get all my anger out on someone besides my husband..."

Well, I would, but right now I have him mowing my lawn (you know - the jobs Americans won't do).

Seriously, Hostage is the only one on this thread who has the "right" to be peeved (if anyone at all does), yet there's been an astonishing amount of knee-jerkism here.

I'm no Pollyanna - I recognize that TSA has a tough job to do. That said, the agents at the Port of Seattle have a reputation for being "World Class A$$holes". They don't do themselves any favors.

Life goes on...
178 posted on 01/07/2007 8:59:57 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: rockrr

Thanks for the laughs... I am not having the best of nights here...But you have me laughing. I wanted to try water boarding here.... When you are done just ship him over if he doesn't do a good job mowing.

I don't like to think little old ladies will be treated rudely ... Treating people rudely doesn't make America look good and enough of the world hates us as it is.... But we don't know who is a terrorist plain and simple. She shouldn't have been stripped to her undies , they could have put the wand over her. Its a good thing she didn't have a heart attack or something..... What does have me angry is that recently I read on FR of the airlines making employees take courses in dealing with the Muslims who might be praying since so many were going to be flying to Mecca..... Maybe they need to give them courses on how to be polite when handling elderly people too.......Yes life goes on......~~Pandora~~


179 posted on 01/07/2007 9:09:44 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812

I have to watch him like a hawk - he keeps trying to fly my LawnMaster into the side of my house...


180 posted on 01/07/2007 9:18:04 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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