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The Tale of the Invisible Seven-Hundred-Mile Fence
self | 6 January, 2007 | joanie-f

Posted on 01/06/2007 8:31:55 AM PST by joanie-f

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To: MNJohnnie

Maybe you ought to write your own "Tale of the Fence" too. And be sure to include Santa and the Tooth Fairy. Chertoff was supposed to come up with a plan by sometime in late November. It has yet to happen.


141 posted on 01/07/2007 11:14:20 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f
This game was lost when the voters rewarded the Republican House members for passing the border bill the anti illegal immigration voters wanted by giving control of the House to the Pro-Illegal Immigration Democrats.

No House or Senate member who can read election returns is going to do anything except grant amnesty and citizenship to Mexicans that are here and open the border to those that are not.

You had best learn to speak Spanish.

142 posted on 01/07/2007 12:06:24 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: joanie-f
"To the majority of opportunistic traitors in our government, the invasion that is destroying our national identity, making a mockery of the rule of law, rewarding insidious parasitic behavior, and putting every American citizen in danger, is secondary in importance to the desire to increase their voting base, the lure of cheap labor, or the vision of a one-world borderless utopia. And don’t tell me the fundamental nature of the above does not fall under the definition of treason (common synonyms: betrayal, disloyalty, duplicity)."

An excellent and well deserved harpooning of our elitist political class currently infesting Washington. They are living on borrowed time but too fixated on personal ambition, power and money to notice how restless, dissatisfied and angry the "little people" have become. With few exceptions, the entire bunch should be driven out of office, and I am no longer fussy about the means and manner of doing so.

143 posted on 01/07/2007 3:03:07 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Common Tator

Congratulations on getting your desired outcome on this issue.


144 posted on 01/07/2007 3:20:08 PM PST by mthom
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To: Kenny Bunk; joanie-f
So, the sum and substance of your post is that it's too late, the damage has been done, there is nothing we can do about it, so we should simply give up and surrender to the inevitable.

Is that about it?

That may well be how you feel about the ongoing illegal alien invasion of America, but there are many of us who do not share your defeatist view.

To me, except for family and the good Lord above, nothing is more important than the sovereignty of the United States, rigid and strict border enforcment, national security, and the preservation of American culture, customs, traditions and language. These are the values of loyal American conservatives and are to be defended no matter the cost. Anyone unwilling to do so does not deserve the freedoms and benefits they have been enjoying. Are you really that blase` about the sacrifices made by generations of our military to protect our country and our values?

You may believe these values are not worth defending, and you are entitled to your opinion. Just don't expect the rest of us to share it.

145 posted on 01/07/2007 3:33:39 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: joanie-f; Minuteman23; hosepipe
Keep deluding yourselves that you have any political relevance at all any more. The US House Republicans fought tooth and nail for your people and got fired for it. So rage and rant all you want but you are simply wasting our time and bandwidth. You are totally and completely politically irrelevant now. NO one in DC is going to listen to your screeching.

You all have prove yourselves completely disloyal traitorous whiners. You are totally incapable of actually doing anything but bitching endlessly because not everything in DC is being done ONLY 100% the way ONLY you people want it done.

Because your political glass was only 70% full you threw a temper tantrum and poured yourself a glass 100% full of political poison. Well go drink it and quit wasting our time with your petulant whining. You wanted the Dems in power, YOU got it. Go ask them what THEY are going to be doing about the Border.

You all just handed the Democrats a victory that they have to do NOTHING to enjoy. See the current do NOTHING about Immigration policy suits them just find. All those illegals and their anchor babies are going to be Democrat voters. So they can just tune all you whiners out and do nothing about the current mess and wait. Eventually you all will be such a minority of voters they will not have to do ANYTHING. The US House Republicans WERE doing things to stop this but because it was not the perfect 100%er fix your con man screamers like Tancredo told you to demand you fired them.

It is a really stupid political move to spend all your time shooting your allies in the back. How about this. How about you try actually fighting the Democrats ONE time on ANYTHING? Frankly your desperate need to find any excuse to keep shooting at your own convinces most of us you all have NEVER been anything but Democrat Party mouthpieces.

All you people can do is endlessly whine, bitch and cry so a bad situation now becomes even worse. Because the people trying to FIX the problem were not doing only 100% of ONLY what you wanted the second you petulant children decided you wanted it, you fired them. NOW the political system in DC is totally stacked AGAINST your view point. WAY to cut off your noises to spite your ignorant faces Know Nothings. Want to help the Conservative Movement? GET OFF OUR SIDE.

Go do to the Democrats what you have been doing FOR them to us for the last 2 years. You Always Whining types almost cost us 2004, did cost us 2006, and will cost us 2008. Go talk to the people in power you helped Elect. You all worked so hard to elect Dems go ask THEM what they are going to do now about the Border.

146 posted on 01/07/2007 4:04:52 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: MNJohnnie; joanie-f; Minuteman23
Don't be stupid.. as usual.. Bushbot/RINObot is becomeing more and more relevant.. The republican party is becoming toxic..

Toxic to what?.. Toxic to a republican form of government..
Especially THIS unique republic..

147 posted on 01/07/2007 4:35:20 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: Westpole

"To equate our government with terrorists is a bit over the top "

Sorry, I'll have to disagree with you on this one.

I believe that equating the government's lack of action to put a stop to the flood of ILLEGAL immigrants into the U.S. IS INDEED tantamount to traitorism and derelection of duty as "supposed" representatives of the people of the United States.

Refusing to deal with the potential danger of a flood of "undocumented people" of UNKNOWN nationality (Mexican? - maybe, but who knows for sure?) is certainly close to being traitorous to America.
Who knows, for sure, WHAT the nationalities are? No-one. Who knows what one or some of them might bring into the country? No-one. Who knows what the actual intention of EVERY ONE of the people coming in, is? No-one.

At one time, people wanting to come to America in order to make a better life for themselves and their families came into the country LEGALLY! Nowadays, politicians and the "left" welcome the illegals with open arms, the underlying reason? - to increase their voting base! How much more of this behavior will we tolerate before there's a backlash of major proportion.

How can America expect to PROTECT the citizenry by ignoring the free flow of people across the border, THEN, to add insult to injury, the idiots who are supposed to be representing us are giving away all types of social services to them.....services that you and I, as law abiding taxpayers are paying for!

Those things considered, I consider the statement to be accurate.

That, in my mind DOES put the politicians in the same class as the terrorists.


148 posted on 01/07/2007 7:50:13 PM PST by GVNR ("The cry from the "left" - You ain't seen nothin' yet! Wait'll we screw EVERYONE!")
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To: MNJohnnie; Smokin' Joe; HiJinx; EternalVigilance; johnny7; DustyMoment; raybbr; ...
Because your political glass was only 70% full you threw a temper tantrum and poured yourself a glass 100% full of political poison. Well go drink it and quit wasting our time with your petulant whining. You wanted the Dems in power, YOU got it ... MNJohnnie

My political glass hasn’t been seventy percent full since the last Reagan administration.

Tell you what. I’m going to list the biggest grievances I have against the ‘republicans’ who have run the show for the past six years – as well as the few examples of conservative progress for which I have to give them credit. I suspect you can provide a similar list, with different headings, should you choose.

First, the biggest negatives:

(1) As President Bush has said, there is no doubt that confronting Islamic fascism on foreign soil is significantly preferable to confronting it here on our own soil.

But, if we make the commitment to do so, it should be a full-fledged commitment. We should re-deploy troops that are performing non-military duty around the world, or who are assigned in non-essential areas, and place those troops in strategic areas along the Iraq border so as to stop the constant infiltration of insurgents and agitators from Iran and Syria. As we did in Vietnam, we are fighting this war with one hand tied behind our backs. In this case we are feverishly bailing the boat while stubbornly refusing to seal the leak. A large number of American troop and Iraqi citizen fatalities are the simple result of the fact that we continue to allow Iranian and Syrian instigators, and equipment, to flow, virtually unfettered, into the war zone.

This war was waged for valid reasons. It is being prosecuted poorly. And the left-leaning politicians and media decision-makers are having a field day as a result.

If this war becomes our Vietnam II, we will have the democrats on the Hill and media propagandists to blame, once again. But the administration will have provided them the tools.

(2) Four major initiatives, all of which are abominations to genuine conservatives, were put on the books during the republicans’ reign, all of which would have made the Founders weep in disbelief:

Campaign Finance Reform

CFR’s major focus is to silence the voice of the individual in the political process, in deference to the gargantuan power of special interest groups and lobbyists, and the general unconstitutional over-reaching power that the state now has in all of our lives and liberties -- even down to issues of what we may say, and when and where we may say it … and the First Amendment be damned.

The creation of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America

Why is our leadership in Washington concerning itself with the security of the continent when the security of our republic is in such toxic disrepair, and when the threats to our lives and liberties have never been greater? And why should the U.S. enter into a security partnership with a country whose political and military leadership continues to demand that the most vulnerable aspect of our national security remains unaddressed, and who benefits from our exposed vulnerability?

In order for this agreement to succeed, America’s existence as a sovereign nation must cease to exist, the idea must be promoted that self-interest, self-protection and personal success is wicked and intolerant, and that a ‘we-are-the-world/equality-of-outcome’ mindset is a sign of a compassionate, highly advanced culture. It is an insidious partnership that primarily benefits Mexico, while, at the same time, handcuffing the American citizen and penalizing him for his relative prosperity.

The No Child Left Behind Act

Most genuine conservatives want to begin to limit the power of the federal government in education regulation. Many (President Reagan in particular) have sought to abolish the Department of Education altogether. The abomination known as No Child Left Behind dramatically increases the stranglehold that the federal government has on local education standards, buries administrators and teachers in a mountain of paperwork, provides very little individual attention to, or curriculum-focus on, students who excel, promotes cookie-cutter educational mediocrity, and has forced many schools to almost single-mindedly gear their curriculum requirements toward meeting arbitrary standards, many of which completely ignore both the history and importance of Western Civilization, and the basics of math, science and the English language.

The Medicare Prescription Drug Modernization Act

A $400 billion socialist/entitlement/wealth redistribution program. It is the largest expansion of Medicare since the program was created in 1965.

In all fairness, I believe this President and his republican congress have accomplished two major conservative victories in the past six years: the appointment of two excellent Supreme Court Justices, and the providing of tax relief. But, when one compares the lists of plusses with the list of minuses, the feeling of betrayal is overwhelming.

Some final words on the immigration crisis:

No genuine conservative champions open borders and guest worker programs for twelve million criminals who are bleeding the American taxpayer dry. When forced to, the president and most republicans on the Hill talk about the vital importance of national security, but they somehow can't see fit to secure our borders. For some of them, the only national security issues of any importance are located in the Middle East.

I consider my security breached when:

(1) Islamic operative can freely enter my country across a two-thousand mile border.

(2) The fruits of my labor will be siphoned off, by an increasingly unaccountable federal government, to pay for social services, education, legal fees and court costs for criminals who are living and working in this country illegally.

(3) Representatives of the Mexican government are allowed to have a say (sometimes even more of a say than the American citizenry) as to how, and how resolutely, we patrol the very borders across which their own countrymen are invading our republic.

(4) An administration and a congress issue angry, patriotic, self-righteous political rhetoric over the firing of ballistic missiles from North Korea, and yet, passively and silently, know and conceal the fact that nuclear/biological/chemical contaminants and weapons can even more easily find their way into this country in a suitcase carried across our unguarded southern border.

(5) Many in leadership positions view as ‘racist’ or ‘intolerant’ those who decry the arrogant, parasitic, and anti-American-sovereignty agenda of a radical separatist organization like La Raza, and the alien criminal element it champions, while pandering to the worst kind of genuine racism, if and only if it furthers a political end and the amassing of globalst/elitist power.

If believing all of the above places me in your ’petulant whiner’ category, so be it. Genuine conservatives have always marched to a particularly clear and well-defined beat, and there is no blind lock-step involved.

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed

149 posted on 01/07/2007 8:05:19 PM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: hosepipe

"Its quite easy to get registered to VOTE by illegal and even legal aliens in most places"

In jest: It's quite easy to get registered to VOTE by the DEAD - if they're Democrats!


















150 posted on 01/07/2007 8:24:50 PM PST by GVNR ("The cry from the "left" - You ain't seen nothin' yet! Wait'll we screw EVERYONE!")
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To: MNJohnnie
It is a really stupid political move to spend all your time shooting your allies in the back.

Then why are your heroes, the RINO hacks running our party, so danged stupid? They've been shooting at conservatives every day for years. You're a poster boy.

151 posted on 01/07/2007 8:29:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: MNJohnnie
You all just handed the Democrats a victory

What total rot. You and your friends can tell this big lie all you want, but it won't make it true.

Fact is, it is RINOs like you who crossed over and directly voted for Democrats. If I had a nickel for every "Republican for _____________ (insert Dem candidate's name)" that I've seen over and over again, I could retire comfortably. Some few conservatives may have stayed home for various reasons, but they don't go vote for something even worse. It just isn't in their nature.

Half the time Democrats, and their media organs, don't have to lift a finger. RINOs and their political hacks have already done all the heavy lifting when it comes to attacking and damaging conservatives.

152 posted on 01/07/2007 8:48:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: joanie-f
Once again consider...

Amazing that the RNC and republican hierarchy could seem to care less about the dead voting, legal and illegal aliens voting, double voting in different precincts(states, county's, venues), and other voting fraud(s).. Almost always by democrats and almost never investigated..

This is Very suspicious... maybe even conspiratorial..

I'm still suspicious of GW Bush running against a known traitor in 2000 and a known moron in 2004.. its just too convient... How could he(Bush) have lost?.. And YES both elections were too close.. Even democrats know Al Gore was/is a moron..

Too many things don't add up..

153 posted on 01/07/2007 9:01:08 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: joanie-f

Yeah, Rick Sanoturum really succeeded by pushing the immigration issue in your state. ;-)


154 posted on 01/07/2007 9:04:03 PM PST by Clemenza (Put down that coffee! Coffee is for closers!)
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To: MNJohnnie

It's telling when Democrats prove more conservative than their Republican counterpart.


155 posted on 01/08/2007 3:38:22 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: azhenfud; All
It's telling when Democrats prove more conservative than their Republican counterpart.

Yes... yes it is.

While I have no respect for anyone who decided to sit out the midterm election because their Republican candidate(s) was RINO(except in the case of Lieberman), the line between the two parties on MANY core issues has become blurred. The Republican party is now being led by big-government nanniests like Collins, Snowe, Specter, McCain, Warner, Graham and Lugar. The whole lot turns my stomach.

Bush also has a role in this mess... but to be fair... we chose Bush because he was the best for all of us in 2000 and 2004. He is defending our nation at a time when others in America would leave us at the mercy of evil.

In the end, it all comes down to the primaries... and I guess we have to start from there.

156 posted on 01/08/2007 5:19:04 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: joanie-f

Good job (although I had to click on your screen name this morning to make sure you hadn't been banned overnight). :-)


157 posted on 01/08/2007 8:15:35 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f; Common Tator
Doing nothing is equivalent to passive acquiescence to being swallowed up by a foreign enemy.

The arithmetic of this situation is something we can literally "do nothing" about. What we can do, of course, is stop the hemorrhage at the border, then figure out what to do with the "patient." We have to plan now to avoid future chaos.

A rational person must consider that we are starting on the same geo-biological process as the original conquistadores, that is founding an entirely new ethnic group ... or dare I say "race?" An extremely small number of the Latin Americans of today are of exclusively European ancestry. Perhaps eventually our nation will simply become more like the rest of the hemisphere, through intermarriage. This is even happening today in such formerly European-based countries like Argentina and Chile, who have their own illegal immigration problems!

The numbers are such that European-Americans will be assimilated into their cultures, instead of the traditional American path of Old -World Europeans becoming "Americanized."

This will not happen next week. But over the next century? Who knows?

158 posted on 01/08/2007 8:27:31 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Republicans could use an attack dog right about now.)
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To: joanie-f
An addendum to your "Some final words on the immigration crisis:

Roots of Latino/black anger

159 posted on 01/08/2007 8:45:13 AM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: johnny7
The Republican party is now being led by big-government nanniests like Collins, Snowe, Specter, McCain, Warner, Graham and Lugar. The whole lot turns my stomach.

This sort of politician is a natural consequence of our culture. We have been turned into "consumers of government," (and of course government services) rather than citizens.

The disgusting toads referenced in your post have merely recognized the phenomenon. After the blip of Ronald Reagan on our historical radar, we are going back to the era when all the conservatives in the country could have (and often did) meet on the poop deck of William F. Buckley's "Cyrano."

Perhaps these RINOs will win an election or two, but don't expect to notice any major difference betwen one side of the aisle or the other. Keep up the good fight locally.

160 posted on 01/08/2007 10:07:02 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Republicans could use an attack dog right about now.)
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