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1 posted on 01/05/2007 4:29:41 PM PST by MHT
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Whatever The United States Armed Forces need to meet the objective, as decided by the men and women in the field.


2 posted on 01/05/2007 4:32:37 PM PST by PGalt
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Only if we do it like Patton would. Fight to win.


3 posted on 01/05/2007 4:32:43 PM PST by carjic
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I don't think we need more troops in Iraq.

We need to let the troops who are there FIGHT THE WAR.

Get out of the way, Maliki. You know as well as anybody that your Iran-funded Mahdi Army buddies are the biggest problem in Iraq today. Let our troops go after them and stop obstructing the path to peace.

4 posted on 01/05/2007 4:33:58 PM PST by Allegra (Vote Dulcie / Finbar 2008)
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As many as it takes.


7 posted on 01/05/2007 4:36:53 PM PST by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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This is way above my MOS.
8 posted on 01/05/2007 4:37:10 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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yes, but only if its coupled with a change in tactics and the rules of engagement.

increasing troop levels just to do the same exact things we do there now, is simply an increase in the number of targets for the insurgents.


11 posted on 01/05/2007 4:38:28 PM PST by oceanview
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While I only know what I read (which means I know nothing) it sounds more political than military necessity.


14 posted on 01/05/2007 4:40:35 PM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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I like the Keegan plan - 50,000. But it should have been done two years ago.

Maybe now that the "light footprint" guys are out of the way, we can get a good estimate from the military.

15 posted on 01/05/2007 4:40:50 PM PST by colorado tanker
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All that are needed without the PC hold they are under...


16 posted on 01/05/2007 4:41:00 PM PST by SledgeCS (If islam is the ROP then explain to me why the shia and shiite are killing each other???)
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If the administration is not going to let the military fight to win, without regard for political correctness and feel-goodness, I am not for additional troop deployment.

If the politicians will allow the military to do their jobs ... kill people and break things ... I am all for putting as many in there as it will take to do the job.

We knew how to end WWII and we know how to begin to put an end to this Islamofacist BS but we just don't seem to have the guts to do it.

17 posted on 01/05/2007 4:41:14 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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Only if we go Ethiopian an their a$$e$.


19 posted on 01/05/2007 4:42:12 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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Since Mcnut is for it, I'm agin it. He knows the dems are agin it, and are probably going to raise mccain so why not encourage the republicans to make some more mistakes. The President has already said, and I agree, that the overall force size needs to increase if we are to be sucked into additional boots on the ground.

Frankly, I think we have been doing fine with the force size we have but guess who the pot stirrers are that want change (rhetorical question)? Well this change just won't cut it in their world, where cut has to be combined with run or fund before it will sell.


20 posted on 01/05/2007 4:42:16 PM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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My vote will have to be "Undecided". On the other hand I think we needed more troops in the beginning for a real occupation till things settled.


21 posted on 01/05/2007 4:42:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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If there's a "surge," then our guys need to kick ass so hard that the insurgents won't be able to just hang on until the surge recedes. Seems unlikely to me, not that I really know.


22 posted on 01/05/2007 4:42:46 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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Who knows!...my son and hubby will be there regardless.


23 posted on 01/05/2007 4:42:48 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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A caller to one of the talk radio programs a week before Christmas said that they need to take the restrictions off the troops who are already there. That would be the greater deterrent to the insurgents.

Considering that after the Abu Graib prison fiasco, the US troops on guard duty were issued rubber bullets, and considering the current restrictive rules of engagement, and considering the several dozen are currently awaiting trial for their engagement with the enemy, we need some serious oversight into how the war is being conducted.

How much has it gone PC and how much is, like the Ethiopian army, actually cleaning out the insurgent infestation?

It took 3 tries before a major effort got Fallujah cleaned out. Several tries have happened in an effort to get Baghdad cleaned out, but apparently, they all failed.

The first step is to identify the mission and the problems. Is that the White House is micromanaging? The State Department? The SecDef? The Joint Chiefs? The US military leaders in Baghdad? The Iraqi government?

We know the troops would clean out any area anywhere -- but they have to given the opportunity.

Maybe it is time for a heavy dose of Opposition Party Congressional Oversight. The current course sure seems stuck.
25 posted on 01/05/2007 4:46:06 PM PST by TomGuy
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Why do you want to know what the Chairborne Rangers want? Ask the Generals what they need? Keep the civilians out.


30 posted on 01/05/2007 4:47:18 PM PST by I got the rope
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Why do you want to know what the Chairborne Rangers want? Ask the Generals what they need? Keep the civilians out.


31 posted on 01/05/2007 4:47:18 PM PST by I got the rope
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Anyone sitting back here in the land of the Big PX hasn't got a clue. I see the daily classified reports on activities in theater and I constantly discuss what's going on with those on the ground. But don't ask me what to do in the tactical fight. I'm not on the ground, and just don't have a feel for it.

I can assure that 99.9% of the morons living inside the beltway know even less than I do. They are totally clueless and only advocate what they think with strengthen their political position. They are only interested in themselves and their politcal futures. They could care less what happens to their country and its soldiers.

As for the strategic and operational objectives and way ahead, that's easy: Fight to Win, whatever it takes.


34 posted on 01/05/2007 4:49:21 PM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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Two "surges" are needed. First, a greater number of boots in the combat forces (6 to 8 combat brigades for the active duty Army, and 3 to 4 combat brigades for the Marines). This is needed to ease the rotation schedule.

As for boosting the presence in Iraq (specifically Baghdad) say 20 to 30 thousand.


35 posted on 01/05/2007 4:49:37 PM PST by taxcontrol
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