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To: billbears
Unfortunately once you start down that road every 'fix' creates yet another mistake.

I agree. When we fix one world problem, another one results. We will never have peace the way things are now.

The question becomes...how much do you undertake to do to save people who are in trouble right now? How much do you undertake to do to deter folks who you realize want to harm you?

39 posted on 01/02/2007 6:20:10 PM PST by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years under Democrat Truman (Jul, 1950 - Dec, 1952))
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To: syriacus
how much do you undertake to do to save people who are in trouble right now?

None. Not any of our business (from a government standpoint). However if a private individual wishes to donate to or serve in a separate movement that is working to alleviate that situation that's their business. But government intervention? Not a chance.

How much do you undertake to do to deter folks who you realize want to harm you?

Again, none. Just war only applies in defense, or in some cases retaliation against harm already done to you. Pre-emptive attacks are nonsensical and in some cases, unfortunately after the fact, it is determined there was little to no actual threat.

If there are only two things the 20th century should have taught, it is those. Unfortunately we will not learn. From Iraq, with the Democrats now in control, it will become a national interest to somehow become involved in Darfur. After that who knows where the rambling wreck of democracy will be off to? But more than likely over time (long term) it will prove to be yet another failure. This is not an anti-American sentiment. It is based solely on history and the failed importation of ideas into other cultures by force.

40 posted on 01/02/2007 6:46:30 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: syriacus
On average, a bad month in Iraq would have been a good month in Korea

Number of US deaths, month by month

-------Iraq War------Korean War

65 2,849
73 1,754
37 3,345
30 386
47 3,475
35 2,154
30 657
43 2,068
82 886
40 1,072
47 1,161
19 806
52 314
147 504
88 1,394
44 1,659
61 531
71 221
84 206
68 147
140 175
73 226
108 201
62 484
36 450
52 412
82 619
77 1,017
55 302
85 197
54 173
96 243
88 541
67 310
65 199
56 471
33 1,006
81 7
71 5
61 63
51 52
70 360
76 131
108 129
76 83
30

43 posted on 01/05/2007 6:16:04 AM PST by syriacus (Iraq War is like the Korean War - but with a GOP prez, 10% of the deaths, an antagonistic MSM)
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