Please remember these 17-yo Americans who died Nov, Dec 1950, under Truman, to free S. Korea.

[syriacus]

I did a search on those born in 1933. There may have been more who were 17, if they died before their 18th birthday in 1950. (e.g., someone born December 20, 1932, might have died at age 17 in November 1950).

Also, it's possible that some 16 year-olds are among those who died in 1950.

[Chi-townChief]

I believe we still have 800 or so buried up in North Korea, killed when the Chinese unilaterally, illegally, pre-emptively, immorally, and unjustly entered the war.

[syriacus]

I doubt that any "surge" into Iraq would include many 17 year olds.

[syriacus]

Did anyone object to Truman's 1950 "police action" against "bandits" on the grounds that 0 Koreans flew planes into prominent US buildings?

[KarlInOhio]

Truman was a Democrat, therefore the Korean War was a "good" war.

[fieldmarshaldj]

May they rest in peace.

[bannie]

Anyone who has an honest or moderately intelligent bone in his/her body knows that saddum had WMD's.

That "we" somehow allow this spin to continue is nuts. At each mention of this stupid spin, honest people need to stop the conversation and ask the person of he/she REEEEALLY believes that there were no WMD's. Press them. Interrupt the flow of the spin.

So much of the arguments against Bush and the war are BASED on this stupid fallacy that, without it, the arguments would be obvious jokes..

[syriacus]

May they rest in peace.

Yes. And may we all remember to be grateful to these young men, who (most likely) have no descendants.

If they were still alive, they could be 73 year-old grandparents or great-grandparents.

[syriacus]

Anyone who has an honest or moderately intelligent bone in his/her body knows that saddum had WMD's.

Dictators have a powerful craving for powerful weaponry.

If someone would have hanged Kim il-sung soon after he invaded South Korea in 1950, his son would most likely not be threatening to develop nuclear weapons in the 21st Century.

[D-Chivas]

Truman was a Democrat, therefore the Korean War was a "good" war.

And I might add that the Korean War was "UN-approved"

[syriacus]

Isn't it funny.....

* Kennedy didn't need to find WMDs to justify going into Vietnam
* Clinton didn't need to find WMDs in the former Yugoslavia and
* Truman didn't need to find WMDs in Korea.

[KarlInOhio]

That was only because the "wrong" China was recognized by the UN so the Soviet Union was having a hissy fit and boycotted to vote. If it had been business as usual, the USSR would have vetoed UN action so the US, South Korea and a few allies would have had to fight without the UN's blessing.

[syriacus]

Truman was a Democrat, therefore the Korean War was a "good" war.

Exactly.
Since Truman was a Democrat, it's okay that almost 34000 Americans died for Korean freedom.
Since Bush is a Republican, it's not okay for 3,000 Americans to die for Iraqi freedom.

More Americans died in Korea in one month* than have died in all the years we have been in Iraq.

*3475 Americans died fighting for Korean freedom in November, 1950
3345 Americans died fighting for Korean freedom in September, 1950

[tatsinfla]

lets remember all that died in all wars to continue providing us our freedom. i lost an 18 year old uncle who fought the inchon invasion as well as the chosin and survived only to die shortly after in korea from spinal meningitis.

[Alberta's Child]

It's also no coincidence that the U.S. either lost those wars, or has committed itself to a perpetual military presence in those places.

[HEY4QDEMS]

[syriacus]

And I might add that the Korean War was "UN-approved"

Truman was lucky. Russia was boycotting the security council.

here's a chrononology

June 24, 1950 - (U.S. time = Saturday, June 24) (Korea time= Sunday, June 25) at 4 am NK invaded SK with 90,000 troops equipped with Soviet weapons and Soviet T-34 tanks, quickly overran SK defenses, captured Uijongbu highway center 20 mi. north of Seoul in 2 days, captured Seoul by June 28 as ROK fled south blowing up Han River bridges, killing refugees, trapping 44,000 own men north of river

June 25, 1950 - Sunday, Truman returned to Blair House from Independence, MO, and met with NSC - ordered U.S. Navy and AF into SK to stop invasion (but not Army ground troops)

June 26, 1950 - Monday, Truman asked and received support from UN - Russia was absent because boycotting Security Council until seat given to Communist China

June 27, 1950 - Tuesday, 2nd UN meeting approved use of ground troops; Truman ordered the 7th Fleet to the Taiwan Strait to protect Formosa. -

Ironically, within 6 months, the Europeans were complaining that Truman was paying too much attention to Asia. They wanted the US to be available for their defense. MacArthur later pointed out that the US needed to fight the communists in Korea or the fight against Communism would take place in the streets of Europe.

[Panzerfaust]

In the interest of balance, you did pick two of the worst months in the Korean War (I believe your choices covered the Inchon landings/first re-capture of Seoul and the Chinese offensive)

[syriacus]

I love it!!

[syriacus]

n the interest of balance, you did pick two of the worst months in the Korean War (I believe your choices covered the Inchon landings/first re-capture of Seoul and the Chinese offensive)

I'm not sure what your point is.