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Middle School Girls Gone Wild
New York Times ^ | 29 December 2006 | LAWRENCE DOWNES

Posted on 12/30/2006 7:27:56 PM PST by shrinkermd

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To: Mrs. Don-o

Honest question: is it sexual harrassment on the girls' part to talk, move, and dress in such a way that any normal male present is in an involuntary state of arousal?


I guess for it to actually be sexual harassment there would have to be conscious intent on the part of the female. Given the level of sexual understanding which permeates our society, most girls over ten probably have sufficient knowledge to be guilty.


161 posted on 12/31/2006 2:28:21 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: SoftballMominVA
"I can only imagine how these girls will act when they are in high school a few years from now."

Or possibly sooner, like next month?

Due to the wide spread use of soy products, with their phyto-estrogen, many young children are fully capable of carrying a child themselves! Look out mom.

162 posted on 12/31/2006 2:36:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor

soy products? You lost me.


163 posted on 12/31/2006 2:38:33 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA
"y products? You lost me."

The use of soy in foods over the years has accelerated the physical maturation of girls by five or six years.

Check out these articles:

Part one

Part two

Part three

164 posted on 12/31/2006 2:51:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: shrinkermd

To think my 12 year old son will look at a girl in a bikini and think they look gross. But he will check out a cute girl in modest clothing.


166 posted on 12/31/2006 2:56:12 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Letaka
For goodness sake, get those gals into a private school, at least. You want to spend that much on them?? Good. Get them into a CONSERVATIVE private school. and hurry. Mid year (now) is a good time!
And don't just hand it to them, give it to son in law and let him give it to them. (but that's just me, whatever it takes)

167 posted on 12/31/2006 3:34:25 PM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: GatorGirl

Too many parents want to be friends first and parents second. But you are doing your children no favor by not being a PARENT. I love my children and that love means not being afraid to say no. And as I used to tell me kids " no is a complete sentence"


168 posted on 12/31/2006 3:40:17 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

hellOOO getting a boy aroused and a boy forcing a girl into sex are two different things.


169 posted on 12/31/2006 5:38:19 PM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Yeah, i'd like these girls i mentioned homeschooled, but no one asks me. :D

i say protect your kids, no matter what it takes.


170 posted on 12/31/2006 5:40:45 PM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: ClearCase_guy

If she DESERVED it???
I'm all against immodesty both in clothing and behavior, but you go too far!


171 posted on 12/31/2006 5:43:06 PM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: SoldierDad

The thing, tho, about 'sexualized by this society' is that it is still up to the parents of that child. We are where the standards are set for our families. No one is forced to participate in any of this stuff. "All the other girls are doing it" is irrelevant. There are many choices.

I think parents of daycare kids don't know how to parent, and when they are with their kids they want to be Mr. Nice Guy to assuage their guilt.


172 posted on 12/31/2006 5:47:19 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

Yes, that is a good part of the problem. Another part is what society has accepted as normal in our media. Parents can do everthing "right" and still wind up underminded by this pervasive overt sexualization that goes on. If the "good" parents are suffering from this, thing about those parents who don't have good parenting skills. Our society needs to stand up and demand better from Hollywood and the DBM, as well as the music industry. I wish I had an answer for how this can be accomplished. Yes, I can do my part in how I raise MY children. But for every household that is doing the right thing how many are not? We cannot just say "It's totally up to the parent" and then turn a blind eye to the problem. Burying our heads in the sand that way compounds the problem IMHO.


173 posted on 12/31/2006 6:34:28 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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To: Shimmer128

"hellOOO", I already said that I never meant to say that rape should be OK and said that I didn't write my original reply as clearly as I'd hoped.


174 posted on 12/31/2006 7:22:13 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

good. whew!


175 posted on 12/31/2006 8:05:42 PM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: shrinkermd

My sister-in-law wanted to get my 6 year old daughter one of those DVD dance mat games that were advertised all the time before Christmas. The commercials alone made me cringe! That was a big "NO!"

That side of the family all think I'm weird. Their 2 year old is already on stage with them every night for the show. I am horrified that they are exposing this beautiful child to anyone and everyone. She's been in every pageant contest they can get her into. It breaks my heart.


176 posted on 12/31/2006 8:47:24 PM PST by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: Shimmer128

"good. whew!"

That's what I said!!

Ha, ha.

Now if only I can get myself straight BEFORE I open my mouth!!


177 posted on 12/31/2006 10:28:21 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I didn't have time to read all the posts, that's why I missed your explanation.
I'm so glad to be wrong about you and that it just needed clarification. Unfortunately, that's not the case with all here. (shaking head) Too bad.


178 posted on 01/01/2007 5:11:36 AM PST by Shimmer128 (My beloved is mine and I am his. Song of Solomon 2:16)
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To: livius; RKBA Democrat; wagglebee

Unfortunately I went to a Southern California elementary school with teachers ahead of their time (or maybe just normal for the L.A. area) for this kind of trash. As 6th grade girls (or was it 5th?) we were taught a dance routine to perform for the boys to the Donna Summers song "Bad Girls." No joke.

And in a 5th grade talent show a girl who LOVED the J Geils band wanted to perform a dance to the song "Centerfold", but the teachers DID put a stop to that and she chose the song "Freeze Frame" instead.

It wasn't until I was older and not so naive that I realized what exactly that song "Bad Girls" was saying. WOW.


179 posted on 01/01/2007 7:48:22 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: A_perfect_lady
I work in a middle school too, and if you could see the stuff the drill team does, you'd shudder head to toe. It's hair-raising. And it's adults teaching them to do it!! That's what really blows me away.

What blows me away is that the parents don't care these days. Everybody bitches and moans about the schools, but does nothing about it. I saw some kind of dance team at a mall one time, of a similar age range to the OP, and if you had stuck a bunch of poles up and had people throwing money at them, it would not have seemed out of place.

The parents of these girls seemed proud of it.
180 posted on 01/01/2007 11:29:39 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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