On the contrary, your counterargument is so stupid it's surprising to see it presented seriously. You should have given a moment's thought to your examples; you didn't, because you haven't even considered the original argument. Here's a clue: it's not simply "they died for it, so it's true". For what it is, you could try reading. Or just go on making a fool of yourself; your choice, really.
Joseph Smith never recanted even when faced with death by an angry mob.
He went to his death shooting and shouting the Masonic distress call, and the crowd never offered the chance to recant anyway.
Why did Jim Jones kill himself, when he knew that all he had been preaching was false?
And how do you know he did? More relevantly, if every single follower had known he was preaching falsehood, how do you suppose it would have went?
The Waco Branch Davidians died believing David Koresh to be the next Messiah
And?
What about the early Muslims who volunteered to die in Muhammad's cause (i.e. The Battle of the Trench), according to your logic they wouldn't have if they knew that Muhammad had not been visited by Gabriel
Now explain how they would have known.
No, don't. Just throw up some more non sequiturs.
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Joseph Smith never recanted even when faced with death by an angry mob.
He went to his death shooting and shouting the Masonic distress call,
Regardless, previously he and his followers were chased from place to place, and they even had for all intensive purposes the whole state of Missouri declare war on them. By your logic why would JS and the rest of them go through all that based on lies?
and the crowd never offered the chance to recant anyway.
Same is true of the apostles.
No where does it say they were persecuted for their beliefs, they were more in trouble for their political acts, primarily the refusal to pay homage to the emperor and their tendency to incite the public to rebel against civil authority. Anyone who was arrested and charged with civil disobedience, treason, inciting riot, or other such crimes couldn't avoid punishment simply by recanting. In the other cases, the crowd turned on the apostle and kill him before any chance to recant.
Why did Jim Jones kill himself, when he knew that all he had been preaching was false?
And how do you know he did? More relevantly, if every single follower had known he was preaching falsehood, how do you suppose it would have went?
They most likely wouldn't have killed themselves
What about the early Muslims who volunteered to die in Muhammad's cause (i.e. The Battle of the Trench), according to your logic they wouldn't have if they knew that Muhammad had not been visited by Gabriel
Now explain how they would have known.
Here's a list of some of The Miracles of Prophet Mohammad as his companions witnessed
Now again, according to your logic if Mohammad's followers didn't see him do such things like crack the moon or have flowing water out of his fingers then they wouldn't have fought and died for such lies, so these miracles must have been true!!
No, don't. Just throw up some more non sequiturs.
Sorry but I need more than everyone else's ancient desert wandering goat herders were tricked or delusional but my ancient desert wandering goat herders were correct.