Posted on 12/18/2006 8:37:30 AM PST by MNJohnnie
On Sunday's Meet the Depressed Mr Newt stuck his whole head in it once again. He said we needed to send 500,000 troops to Iraq. Some questions for Mr Newt
Hey Newt, We sent 500,000 troops to Vietnam at the height of our involvement. How did that work out for us?
Curious, where are you going to get the 500,000 troops for Iraq? How long do they stay? What are they going to be doing?
Gee Newt, I guess I missed the part of your Resume that covered your military background. Which Staff Schools did YOU attend Newt?
Newt has become a perfect machine politician. He simply is picking up on what the DC Political-Media complex wants to hear and saying it. He and McCain are basically the singing the same one note DC Marching song. This way both of them can placate the Right by saying "See we are supporting the troops" and still suck up to the DC noise machine by being against how the Iraq mission is being run by the President.
It is short attention span theater time again. The American people simply lack the emotional or intellectually discipline to face anything that requires sustained effort. So as usually the political snake oil salesmen are crawling out of the slime with the usual simplistic answers and easy fixes. Only problem is what they are trying to selling on Iraq is pure poison. The DC "Conventional Wisdom" on Iraq is, as usual, neither conventional nor wisdom
What Newt SHOULD be doing is listening to what Gen Abizaid told the US Senate when he came back from Iraq to testify to the US Senate in mid November. Newt should become Gen Abizaid's standard bearer. Position himself as the guy covering our troops back from the idiots in DC who STILL have learned nothing since LBJ screwed up "Nam.
For example, Newt could be raising the point that when asked specifically about troop levels by Sen McCain, Gen Abizaid (who only happens to be the actual commander on the Ground in Iraq) all but told McCain he is an utter idiot on Iraq. Gen Abizaid made it clear he did NOT need more troops. Newt should cut himself out of the 2008 pack by being the sane serious voice on Iraq backing up the Military rather then merely howling after the Junk Media pack. This "More Troops" propaganda line is both stupid political strategy and stupid military strategy.
There are 4 reasons why too many troops can be as bad as too few troops in a Counter Insurgency Mission.
Retardation, Marginalization, Friction and Unrealistic expectations.
Too many troops retards the locals efforts to develop their own military/political structure to govern . It takes time and effort to train and blood troops. It especially takes time to train up the cadre to run a serious military. Good NCOs and Officers are not born, they are made. This was on of the major US mistakes in Vietnam. It was easier to just have the US troops take over doing everything then work through the leaning curve of the locals. Problem was once the US no longer had the political will to carry on the mission they simply dumped the problem on an under developed Vietnamese political/military structure.
There is this odd American arrogance that seem to think ONLY Americans can do anything. Everyone else is incompetent and or corrupt. Only problem is the American public, like most spoiled brats, lacks the emotional or mental discipline to stick with unpleasant difficult tasks. Too many US troops would simply retards all efforts to get the locals to the point they can contain or break the Insurgents for themselves then when the petulant American people simply decided they wanted us to go home, there would be no one to pick up the bat for us.
Too many troops also marginalizes efforts to develop a counter political structure strong enough to break or contain the Insurgency. It deligitmizes the locals efforts and makes them simply look as lackeys of the occupying power. Having the US run everything marginalizes the political credibility of the local political structure and spurs the Insurgents propaganda and recruitment efforts.
The more troops the more friction with the locals. Face it, having a bunch of hyper aggressive mostly young mostly male Americans suddenly descend on you town is NO ones idea of a good time. Even in our own military towns there is a lot of friction between the locals and the military. Think how much worse that would be in an alien culture with a living memory of being a colony in everything but name? A heavily armed society with an exaggerated sense of male empowerment? Basically you have two aggressive testosterone drive heavily armed dominate male groups in close proximity.
Unrealistic Expectations. Send a lot troop and the expectation is you can quickly and easily solve all problems and bring the boys home. No, not in a Counter Insurgency. Counter Insurgency is evolutionary, not revolutionary. It takes time and lots of back breaking effort.. Sending a whole lot of troops simply exhausted your fiscal and military resources faster.
There are other things such as the added friction both on the locals and the US forces of having heavily armed, under trained conventional troops performing close combat operations in civilian areas. The counter productive results of a "kill people and wreck stuff" Conventional mentality in dealing with a Asymmetrical threat etc etc etc.
Frankly the DC Noise machine should simply shut up and get out of the US Military's way. They studied Vietnam hard and actually have the right answers here. As in Vietnam, the problem here is the "Washington Knows Best" mentality of the entrenched political media power structure who simply will sacrifice anything and anyone to avoid having to admit GW Bush has been right about Iraq all along.
Moving to America sure helped 'though the tax situation here in WV ain't exactly great.
Yeah....thank God Hillary's not a woman.
Nancy Pelosi needs weight? Teddy can give her some of his excess.
Love the tang line.
Demrats terrify me!
Yes, yet they were so inexperienced in military intelligence they fell for a lie, oh yeah, when asked for their plan on Iraq, thay said
"We are not in power, we do not need a plan"
I hope Howard Dean starts his rants again soon.
God bless this caller. Air force guy!
IMHO, Peyton Manning is the Joe Montana of today's League. HE has never choked...he hasn't had the right mix of supporting cast. And the Colts STILL don't have a RUN defense as my Jaguars showed against them. Still...I'm convinced that if they get home field advantage, there's no one better in that dome than Peyton. For the Bears, Grossman is ALMOST a disqualifier. But the DEFENSE is so good, the Bears overcome Grossman's stupidity. No one team is perfect at every position. The Chargers' defense is pass deficient as Washington showed...so...it's still "on any given Sunday". I just think the Bears and the Colts are the best in their Conferences, and I think it would be an exciting game--a great offense against a great defense...a sort of muddling defense (Colts) against muddling offense (Bears). I think it would be a very good game...
My hand is in the air, Rush.
AHhhhhhhh.......who is this government leech he's talking too? I Hate paying taxes!!!
He's a pretty shameless leech as well.
He can obviously afford cigarettes.....
C-spin began their discussion of Hillary this morning by citing some democrats who see Hillary as the "Howard Dean" of '08...brought a smile to my face.
Hillary as the Howard Dean...
Think of THAT scream...
A long time ago a lady I know once said of me, "I can't make up my mind whether you're a cynical romantic or a romantic cynic."
Still hasn't figured it out.
};^)
Thanks for the ping
Hey buddy. Did you watch that show?
From Teddy's numbers, 36 million, and considering the United States' population is about 300 million and about 1/3 of that are children, about 106 million, that means 1/3 of children go without food? That is an awful statistic Teddy. AND YOU ARE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS! We should use Teddy's statistic against him. He is a member of Congress and while in Congress, he has let Americans go hungry while he is able to eat at least three, if not four square meals a day.
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