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To: joseph20
Actually, the Catholic Church never took a position on the issue of geocentrism.

That appears to be the current church spin. the catholic.com web site says this:

[When Galileo met with the new pope, Urban VIII, in 1623, he received permission from his longtime friend to write a work on heliocentrism, but the new pontiff cautioned him not to advocate the new position, only to present arguments for and against it. When Galileo wrote the Dialogue on the Two World Systems, he used an argument the pope had offered, and placed it in the mouth of his character Simplicio. Galileo, perhaps inadvertently, made fun of the pope, a result that could only have disastrous consequences. Urban felt mocked and could not believe how his friend could disgrace him publicly. Galileo had mocked the very person he needed as a benefactor. He also alienated his long-time supporters, the Jesuits, with attacks on one of their astronomers. The result was the infamous trial, which is still heralded as the final separation of science and religion. ]

In other words, if Galileo had merely discussed the subject of heliocentrisim pro and con, he would have been fine. But since he dared to claim it as truth, the church retaliated.

When the church put Galileo in prison for teaching heliocentricity, they were taking a position on the matter. Internal church politics or who Galileo insulted because they refused to believe the truth is irrelevant.

My original point stands that people who interpret the Bible literally on scientific issues can risk their faith when they're confronted with contrary facts they cannot ignore. With regard to evolution, the phenomenon that humans have the ability to ignore obvious truths while they continue to hold their faith, makes me seriously doubt the validity of that faith. Were they attempt to witness their faith to me in order to save my soul, I would laugh at them because it is obvious that their judgment on matters of fact is seriously flawed.

626 posted on 12/21/2006 11:01:20 AM PST by narby
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To: narby
With regard to evolution, the phenomenon that humans have the ability to ignore obvious truths while they continue to hold their faith, makes me seriously doubt the validity of that faith. Were they attempt to witness their faith to me in order to save my soul, I would laugh at them because it is obvious that their judgment on matters of fact is seriously flawed.

So; what kind of Scriptures could a believer in C use to witness to a believer in E, in order to get him/her to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ?

642 posted on 12/21/2006 1:48:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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