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To: hosepipe
Psalm 43 says "Before you were born I KNEW YOU".. Whom knew what?..

I had quite a debate about that one with a Baptist friend. He believed that we existed before we are born and thought the bible indicated so with the verse you quoted. I don't agree. I think other verses say otherwise. But God is eternal.

608 posted on 12/21/2006 6:11:28 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: DungeonMaster; hosepipe

To God, who is outside time, it would be a simple matter to look in at any point He wished.


610 posted on 12/21/2006 6:32:55 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DungeonMaster
[ I had quite a debate about that one with a Baptist friend. He believed that we existed before we are born and thought the bible indicated so with the verse you quoted. I don't agree. I think other verses say otherwise. But God is eternal. ]

When you are born what happens?.. Your spirit inhabits flesh or... WHAT?.. When you(your body) dies the reverse happens.. right?

If not... learn me something new..

613 posted on 12/21/2006 8:39:00 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: DungeonMaster
He believed that we existed before we are born and thought the bible indicated so with the verse you quoted.

I, likewise, disagree.

I feel that GOD is OMNI-everything, so HE knew (knows) what is in the future.

Future for us humans, anyway.

I think the fact that HE knows what WILL happen leads some to believe that HE MAKES it happen; thus we descend into the Calvin vs Armenian 'discussion' and never get anywhere ;^)

633 posted on 12/21/2006 1:30:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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