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To: My2Cents

You can believe that all you want, but it doesnt make it so. Show me one piece of evidence that was shoehorned into the theory.

If you believe in the Judaeo Christian explanation I can show you dozens of cases of shoehorning facts. The facts do not support Adam and Eve, Noah, Samson and all of the Bronze Age Hebrew myths. I apologize if you are a follower of Odin, SHiva or any of the other gods.


203 posted on 12/18/2006 3:04:00 PM PST by LiberalGunNut
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To: LiberalGunNut
Show me one piece of evidence that was shoehorned into the theory.

Good grief. Take a look at just about every one of PatrickHenry's posts that supposedly brought forth some new evidence to "confirm" evolutionary theory. Those articles always had some scientist describing how the find fit in with the theory. And that circular logic was always fairly well exposed in the course of the discussion on the thread. For example, some fossil is discovered which is spliced into the "Tree of Life." Why is it assumed that this new discovery necessarily has to be a "missing link" in the development of species, and wasn't, rather, just a dead-end that resulted in the ascent of nothing?

And as to the biblical story of origins, I have my own beliefs, but frankly, it's much more fun tearing down the presumptions of the Darwinists. All that has to be shown is that Darwinism isn't as bulletproof as the professional evolutionists say it is.

209 posted on 12/18/2006 3:14:47 PM PST by My2Cents (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -- George Orwell)
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To: LiberalGunNut

Gravity is a "fact".

Things falling is an observation of the pull of bodies towards each other.

Bodies pulling towards each other is called gravity. (do you dispute any of these facts?)

Evolution is a "fact".

Fruit flies changing generation to generation is an observation of generational organism change.

Organisms changing generation to generation is called evolution. (do you dispute any of these facts?)

The "facts" of gravity require an explanation.

Aristotle and Galileo, created explanations of the "fact" of gravity. These are now obsolete explanations. Newton created an explanation which is substantially correct as far as it goes but turned out to require refinement.

Einstein's explanation, refining Newton's is currently the most accepted explanation of the "fact" of gravity.

The "facts" of evolution require an explanation.

Lamarckism, Transmutationism and Orthogenesis were created as explanations of the "fact" of evolution. These are now obsolete explanations. Darwin created an explanation which is substantially correct as far as it goes, but turned out to require refinement.

The Neo-Darwinist explanation is currently the most accepted explanation of the "fact" of evolution.

Gravity is a "fact" and a "theory."

Evolution is a "fact" and a "theory."


212 posted on 12/18/2006 3:19:26 PM PST by LiberalGunNut
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To: LiberalGunNut
If you believe in the Judaeo Christian explanation I can show you dozens of cases of shoehorning facts. The facts do not support Adam and Eve, Noah, Samson and all of the Bronze Age Hebrew myths. I apologize if you are a follower of Odin, SHiva or any of the other gods.

Remarks like that lend credence to the assertions that evolutionists are primarily about bashing Christianity.

376 posted on 12/18/2006 9:24:00 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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