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Ohio House Bill 347 passes over governor's veto
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Posted on 12/12/2006 10:53:09 AM PST by Zeko

The Ohio Senate has passed House Bill 347 (reforming concealed carry, standardizing Ohio gun laws statewide) by a vote of 21 to 12, thus overriding Governor Taft's veto.


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To: Hawthorn
I hate to disappoint you. But the U. S. Constitution makes it difficult for the Prez and the VP to be from the same state.

Whadda ya' mean? Taft resides in the state of incompetence and Kucinich in the state of confusion.

61 posted on 12/12/2006 4:23:39 PM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: MissTargets
My State Senator is Marc Dann (D) and new Attorney General. He is pro-gun and I sure hope he was one of the D's voting for the veto override.

He was one of those who voted to override the veto.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


Ohioans for Concealed Carry Applauds Historic Preemption Legislation & Gubernatorial Override


To: State Desk

Contact: Jeff Garvas of Ohioans for Concealed Carry, Web site: http://www.OhioCCW.org

CLEVELAND, Dec. 12 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Today the Ohio Senate voted 21-12 to override Governor Bob Taft's veto of Ohio House Bill 347, joining the Ohio House's decision to override last week. This is the first time an Ohio Governor's veto has been overridden since 1977.

Ohio will now join forty-three other states that preempt all gun laws to the State level or higher, making their application consistent statewide. Research has shown that of the many assault weapon bans enacted across the State of Ohio, only three criminal convictions have ever taken place. Further, local governments can only enact minimal fines and short misdemeanor jail terms. Laws aimed at curbing violence and targeting the violent criminals that plague our society must not only be consistent statewide, they must have the ability to levy appropriate charges and serious jail sentences. This legislation provides for that.

"The framers of Ohio's Home Rule Amendment never intended for local municipalities to have authority over laws that are of statewide concern. That is not my opinion. That is written directly into the Constitution," said Jeff Garvas, president of Ohioans for Concealed Carry. "Local governments have created a patchwork of unknown laws aimed at disarming their law abiding residents in different ways than their neighbors in another town. This confusing patchwork also unfairly traps the unwary gun owner traveling through their jurisdictions. This reform isn't just needed, it's long overdue and brings Ohio in line with the rest of the country."

Ohioans for Concealed Carry would like to thank our elected representatives in the Ohio General Assembly, particularly the leadership of Representatives Jim Aslanides and Jon Husted and Senators Bill Harris, Jim Jordan, Marc Dann, Charles Wilson and Joy Padgett for banding together to ensure passage of this important legislation. They also give credit to their members and supporters; without their efforts making phone calls and sending letters this would not have been possible.

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* Please feel free to forward this press release to any email address at the bottom of news stories online from newspapers and related online news sources who may not have received our press release from the wire service.

62 posted on 12/12/2006 4:32:18 PM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: PurpleMan

"Great. Now those fine citzens known as the Bengals can be drunk murderers."

Please explain. How does a law that improves concealed carry result in "drunk murderers."


63 posted on 12/12/2006 5:04:50 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Panzerlied

"Any bets on how soon we hear from the gun grabbers that this will result in a "bloodbath" in Ohio?"

Which bloodbath would that be? We must be up around 45 bloodbaths that were supposed to happen once law abiding citizens were allowed to carry concealed handguns. And we're still waiting.


64 posted on 12/12/2006 5:08:22 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

"You know it is bad when I am actully looking forward to having a governor who is a Democrat !"

We're not all horrible. On gun stuff, some Democrats have been very good as compared to the GOP. Examples: Gov. Warner in VA and Rep. Eric Croft in AK.


65 posted on 12/12/2006 5:14:17 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Hardastarboard

Thank you, I hope I can be 'worth my salt' to the people I serve. Your kind words made my day. Thanks again.


66 posted on 12/12/2006 5:26:08 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Hawthorn

Oh, I'm not disappointed. I was trying (badly) to point out what camp Bob Taft is really in. It pains me to see Strickland and Sherrod Brown in, but Taft was completely useless.


67 posted on 12/12/2006 5:28:38 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Total Package

Already got one.....and my CCW to boot... *wink*


That should piss carty and toby hoover off..LOL


68 posted on 12/12/2006 5:50:48 PM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Oh, and from what I understand Taft was doing this for the Ohio State Highway Patrol.

I think the OSP administration and the rank and file differ on the subject.

I think that is a mixed bag. I have had reported to me -- by active and retired police officers -- OSP Troopers doing felony stops on CCW holders in counties in and around Franklin County.

I know that as a police officer from Ohio, I am all for the Right of the people to carry and protect themselves.

If police officers are afraid of law-abiding citizens carrying guns then they need to look for another line of work.

Thank you for your service. And thank you for your common sense towards the common man (woman).

I shudder while remembering an advanced firearms class with some young officers fresh out of the academy two years ago. They spent quite a while coaching each other how to bust CCW holders on technical violations (e.g. coat flopping over handgun while in or in act of exiting vehicle, handgun in console instead of glove box, IWB holster instead of OWB holster, etc.). They seemed not to understand what I was speaking of when I conveyed to them that normal, average law abiding citizens are growing wary of that kind of 'gotcha game' while honestly trying to comply with the law.

69 posted on 12/12/2006 6:17:57 PM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Ghengis

Felony traffic stops on CCW permit holders?? That's outrageous. That burns my skinny caucasian arse. How rediculous.

I've had few dealings with permit holders here, we talk about guns, I shake their hands. One guy I got on a bit because he had his permit but didn't have his gun with him. Told him the paper wasn't going to do him any good. I've asked them if they've had any trouble from the police. The ones I have dealt with had not, BUT, they were very leary about Ohio's terrible CCW laws. Thankfully that's over with.

We have a guy on our dept. who helps people qualify to be able to carry.

I do what I can to promote it here.


70 posted on 12/12/2006 6:29:39 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks for the good news. No doubt, Illinois will be the last to go along. Heck, we probably would have never repealed prohibition if not for the revenue liquor generates.
71 posted on 12/12/2006 8:42:09 PM PST by Barnacle (Where's the wall?.... Where's the wall??)
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To: hoosierham
We needed it..........badly.

Not sure where I copied this, but, I thought I'd paste it. Santa Claus is coming to town, and he's pissed. (see tagline)

Do not forget some DEmocrats actually support the values once predominant in America.

Yup, very true. However, the pendulem moves left, then right, and repeats itself. '06's setbacks in a late-term election do not, in any way, suggest a change in conservatism. Bad news for the Right is: they aren't very right.

72 posted on 12/12/2006 10:48:51 PM PST by budwiesest (Ha,ha, made you look. Merry Christmas.)
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To: Crim
I hope Carty cried last night and JRB in Pittsburgh too. I went browsing and saw a beautiful S&W 38 +P double action no hammer Titanium that I am thinking about getting. I have around $500 in gift certificates to Cleland's that I have not use because I could not buy what I wanted.
73 posted on 12/13/2006 3:26:40 AM PST by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE)
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To: Brilliant

"Why doesn't Taft do everyone a favor and resign?"

His term runs out in a month so it doesn't matter. He'll be gone very soon anyways.


74 posted on 12/13/2006 5:55:46 AM PST by My GOP
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To: buckeyenation
He sucks - no question. However, I'm pretty sure DeWine (Gang o' Tards) needed no help sinking his miserable senate career.
75 posted on 12/13/2006 6:08:15 AM PST by SlayerOfBunnies (muslims: fix islam, convert to something less violent, or stop your whining.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
I know that as a police officer from Ohio, I am all for the Right of the people to carry and protect themselves. If police officers are afraid of law-abiding citizens carrying guns then they need to look for another line of work.

Thank you for your perspective. It is refreshing to hear that from an officer. Stay safe.

76 posted on 12/13/2006 8:03:45 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: beltfed308

Good - now maybe I can move to Ohio.


77 posted on 12/13/2006 9:53:42 AM PST by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for the truth will see the truth)
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To: beltfed308

Your welcome. The local newspaper had a story in it today about our neighboring city. The Mayor there is pouty that this legislation passed, he's an anti-gun democrat.

Anyway, the paper talked to the police chief of that city and the chief said that they had not had any incidents with law-abiding citizens carrying concealed. It's a town of about 50 thousand people.

Good news.


78 posted on 12/13/2006 12:07:57 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch

I asked on a thread yesterday, got no answer.

This bill also had provisions changing the idiotic CC while in a car also, Yes?


79 posted on 12/13/2006 12:27:07 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Vinnie

Sorry for the delay, I had to do some digging.

Yes, it changes the idiotic in vehicle rules.

All one has to do now, from what I read, is notify the officer that he has a permit and he (and hopefully she as well) is carrying a firearm.

Common sense is making progress.


80 posted on 12/13/2006 1:11:11 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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