Creation museum pushes 'true history' (About New Ohio Creationist Museum)

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[HHKrepublican_2]

A new high-tech temple to fundamentalist Christianity is due to open in heart of Middle America next May, aiming to provide the grandest riposte yet to Darwinian evolutionary theory.

Staff and supporters of the Answers in Genesis organisation call it the Creation Museum.

But secular scientists would take issue with the use of either word to describe the almost completed building that stands just a few miles west of Cincinnati, on the borders of Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana.

Wherever you stand on the debate, it is impossible not to be impressed by the effort that has gone into constructing the $27m (£13.5m) museum, which hopes to attract hundreds of thousands of visitors each year.

"We have a planetarium to our left, and a virtually-finished bookstore.

"The museum is right under that archway there," said Mark Looy, vice president for ministry relations, standing in the foyer next to an animatronics dinosaur that is munching on a synthetic plant.

Playful dinosaurs

The museum's aim is to bring Genesis - the first book of the Bible - to life for all ages, and promote the belief that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.

[Proverbs 3-5]

www.answersingenesis.org Q&A

[Constitution Day]

LOL!

[Proverbs 3-5]

Second try:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/qa.asp

[highball]

LOL indeed.

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

[Constitution Day]

Exactly. (see tagline)

[Alter Kaker]

That's nothing! I'm est to open a $60 million Museum of the Geocentric Universe and a $100 million Museum of the Four Humours.

[Condor51]

....and promote the belief that the Earth is less than 10,000 years old.

Oh puuuuuleaze. Not that nonsense.

• Fossils
• Mountains
• Continental Drift
• Diamonds
• Carbon Dating
• The Red-Blue Doppler shift of the stars in our ever expanding universe
• And yeah, Dinosaurs

All PROVE otherwise. The earth is 4.5 Billion years old, deal with it.

(Then there's that '7 day' thing, but that's another matter)

[shempy]

Is this going to be like Santa's Village, where every day is Christmas and you can talk to actual elves and see real live reindeer?

[Coyoteman]

I'm est to open a $60 million Museum of the Geocentric Universe and a $100 million Museum of the Four Humours.

Don't forget Flatland, the museum dedicated to a flat earth!

(Here is a good link: Index of Creationist Claims.)

[highball]

True enough.

I've never understood why some people think that willful ignorance is a virtue.

Then again, there are some people who think if they ignore their credit card bills, the debt will miraculously vanish. This "museum" seems built on the same interesting logic.

[scottdeus12]

Waiting for the Apes to Man chart to be posted.........

[DonaldC]

" Oh puuuuuleaze. Not that nonsense.

* Fossils
* Mountains
* Continental Drift
* Diamonds
* Carbon Dating
* The Red-Blue Doppler shift of the stars in our ever expanding universe
* And yeah, Dinosaurs

All PROVE otherwise. The earth is 4.5 Billion years old, deal with it.

(Then there's that '7 day' thing, but that's another matter)"

Those objections are not that hard to overcome. Just think what the bible says about creation. Trees etc were created bearing fruit, man and woman was created, not boy and girl. The point is, the earth was created in a mature state, so all your evidence above can be correct and still fit in a creationists paradigm. Ages is one thing of course, evolution is another and I cannot think of a way evolution and creationism can fit together. I personally don't put much stock in evolution because if all there is was created by random mutation, the fossil record should be crammed full of things that did not make it, and it isn't. That's my two cents.

[ndt]

"...fossil record should be crammed full of things that did not make it"

The fossil record IS crammed full of things that did not make it.

[DonaldC]

No, it is not. If it were, there would be no problem finding transitional fossiles from ape to man, for example. Or of things that crawled out of the sea, or into it, whichever the theory points at present. There should be thousands of examples, but instead, scientists point to a half skull here and a jawbone there. The evidence is lacking...imho.

[Tinman93]

I personally don't put much stock in evolution because if all there is was created by random mutation, the fossil record should be crammed full of things that did not make it, and it isn't. That's my two cents.


First of all, you need to understand the process of fossilization and understand the extreme conditions it takes to fossilize an animal. If a carcass isn't fully eaten and scattered across a large area it then has to be in the right place at the right time for fossilization to take place. I'm sure there are an untold number of species we'll never know about.

[Coyoteman]

...there would be no problem finding transitional fossiles from ape to man, for example.

This is a transitional. Note its position in the chart which follows (hint--in the upper center):

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Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33

Source: http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/environment/eePages/eeDating/HumanEvol_info.html

[Constitution Day]

This "museum" seems built on the same interesting logic.

Ha! Great comparison. Thanks.

CD

[scottdeus12]

"Waiting for the Apes to Man chart to be posted........."


I knew it wouldn't take long......

[DonaldC]

Was this a transitional fossil or a creature created at the biginning that did not make it?