Iraq rejects suggestion of US troops leaving by early 2008 as 'an insult'

The Daily Telegraph ^ | December 11, 2006 | Damien McElroy

[SunkenCiv]

Ping!

[SunkenCiv]

Iraqi president calls U.S. bipartisan report dangerous and 'an insult to the people of Iraq'
by Kim Gamel - Associated Press Writer
Last modified Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:34 PM PST
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/12/11/news/nation/121006183709.txt

[CottShop]

Well here's an eye opener mahmoud- we concider you an insult to all humanity- so I guess that makes us even. http://sacredscoop.com

[MadIvan]

I don't think you read the article. Try again.

Ivan

[CottShop]

no I stand by my assessment of mahmoud- thanks anyways

[MadIvan]

There's a slight problem. There's no one named Mahmoud in this article.

It does help to read it, you know.

Ivan

[CottShop]

lol i am so messed up- Iraq- ah- Well, I guess though I can still stand by my sentiment of mahmoud

[Danae]

Uh, ok.

Loyalist are ya now?

What was GW supposed to do to lower gas prices? Specifically? Oh YEA, I forgot silly me, we have a free market economy that the Government largely DOES NOT CONTROL. Silly me, and here I thought that the POTUS could do ANYTHING he wanted to.

Iraq and the occupation of became UNAVOIDABLE during the Clinton Administration, when they refused to stop the erosion of the Sanctions on Iraq and Saddam, and ENABLED France and Russia in their EXPLOITATION of the Iraqi people and the Nations resources to the benefit of their own coffers and of course Saddam's. The Sanctions, once they were gone, and believe me they were 6 months to a year from being either gone or irrelevant, Saddam would have been producing Chemical and Biological weapons Selling them to the highest bidder and giving them to Al-Qaeda, and vigorously attempting to acquire a Nuclear weapon of any sort.

If you want to be pissed at someone, be pissed at Billy Clinton and his Biotch of a wife Hillary. THAT is where the blame lies. They CREATED the problem. GW went and SOLVED it. The nature of the Clintons NEGLECT in dealing with the issues has cost the U.S. dearly in Blood. Want to lay blame, put it where it belongs. Don't blame the Man who had the Balls to DO something about it!

[lonestar67]

I like how people are taking on the Bush bashers here at Free Republic.

It is a pleasant change.

I see no sign that Bush is pulling out of Iraq in the manner these pollsters and dems are trying to arrange.

Baker is more of old school failures that lead to things like 911.

I think this is playing out pretty well.

Bush has shown good leadership on Iraq by maintaining our defense of democracy in Iraq despite its fragility.

The Iraqi public is coming to the same realization they made about Al Qaeda in regard to Shia militias. They are violent SOBs that need to be divorced from political power. Bloodshed is part of that cruel learning process.

The Sadrist and other radicals do not have the numbers to retake Iraq.

Bush's policies in Afghanistan and Iraq have been incredibly successful. The media propaganda war combined with dem backstabbing is only further evidence of its success. No good deed goes unpunished. These have been very good deeds.

[MadIvan]

My father told me something which has remained stuck in my mind ever since. He has had the opportunity to meet senior politicians in America and Britain; he told me, "Don't think for a moment that just because they're in charge that they're any more intelligent than we are. More often, they're not."

This group of "wise men" fit into that mould. So what if Baker served the Bush (41) Administration - that doesn't mean he isn't an idiot. Considering how that Presidency collapsed from bad advice as well as fatigue, it's even more likely he's a fool.

It's at times like this that we need to hold to fundamental truths, which are generally simple: if someone is all talk and no action, are you inclined to respect him / her? What does the bully understand, dialogue or being punched in the face? What is more likely to be effective - putting the enemy in the ground or giving him a bribe? Common sense, as well as history indicates that talking and bribery never work - yet here we have these fools proposing it yet again because they'd rather ignore the brutal realities of life and diplomacy rather than deal with them head on.

My father was right - there is a cabal of fools in government. In this case it's this damn fool study group.

Regards, Ivan

[dmartin]

We need guys like Tom Delay and John Bolton...

More like Bolton, less like Delay. If a guy does something that gets him indicted multiple times, guilty or not, he is not the kind of guy we need.

[Just another Joe]

We need to do one of two things.
Either get in, all the way in, actually make Iraq a colony, or get out, all the way out, let Iraq fall into internal conflict with Syria, Iran and whoever else wants to throw down battling it out to control the 2nd largest oil reserves in the region.

Well, that lets number 2 out.

We go in with overwhelming force, retaliate with devastating effect after every "insurgent" operation and tell the civilians to either get the hell out of the way or live with the consequences.

Break their will and their minds will follow.

But we will piddlefoot around and 2 years from now we will still be in the same situation we're in today. The Iraqi government will still be looking to us to prop them up and protect them from the other countries just waiting to take them over, either covertly or overtly.

[meema]

Iraq is, indeed, a sovereign nation. It would bode well for them if they would fully understand that the United States is also a sovereign nation - in full control of the allocation of its military and resources. The United States has certain goals and objectives it wishes to achieve in the Middle East. To the extent that deployment in support of the Iraq government works toward achieving those goals, then it is in our interest to be there.

When it is not working, then it is no longer in our interest.

Well said. Iraqis, Pull up your socks!

[Blue Scourge]

Out of curiousity, what does everyone think we should do in Iraq?

[MadIvan]

I think Kurdistan should be given independence, and a lot of guns. This would achieve the aim of destabilising Iran as their Kurdish regions would rise up in rebellion to join them.

As for the rest, a federal, cantonal system should be considered.

The rules of engagement need to be altered in order to smash the hell out of the insurgents, regardless of niceties.

Regards, Ivan

[Candor7]

Exactly the kind of guy we need, because the only way the Dems can handle him is through scandle mongering. In the long term that will deplete their reources and public confidence. Why are Republicans afraid to join in the adversary style of politick?

We need a dozen like DeLay.