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Pinochet Has Died
Fox News | 12-10-06

Posted on 12/10/2006 9:46:26 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

Hell has a new employee...Pinochet is dead at 91.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chile; chileansavior; commiekiller; commiethwacker; dictator; leavehimbe; pinochet; tookoutthetrash
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To: Melas
"then suddenly this business of killing communists isn't quite as attractive."

Yeah, and living as a human skeleton being worked to death in some political re-education camp sucks even worse.

Stop excusing communists. "Oooh, they're people like you and me!"

Yes, they're people, very *bad* people that will happily stick you in a gulag if you ignore them and they get powerful enough.

341 posted on 12/10/2006 4:17:26 PM PST by mbennett203 ("Bulrog, a tough brute ninja who has dedicated his life to eradicating the world from hippies.")
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To: indcons
==The Communists were evil; and so was Pinochet.

Wrong. Allende was a pro-Soviet/Castro thug that was systematically dismantling the Chilean constitution (ie Nationalizing private industry, etc). Pinochet stepped in just in time to stop Allende from launching the typical genocide that accompanies the consolidation of Communist Revolution.
342 posted on 12/10/2006 4:21:42 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: indcons

PS Hopefully, someone from the military will rise up and inflict the same fate as Allende on Hugo Chavez and Co.


343 posted on 12/10/2006 4:26:07 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: indcons

"After 26 years as a dictator? Yep...that's 26 years!"

Did Castro step down? How about Mao? Ho Chi Minh? Stalin?
Would have Allende?
(After he finished trashing the Chilean constitution)

Let's face it. As another poster on this board already said, Pinochet saved Chile (and perhaps South America) from Communism. Liberals will never forgive him for that.


344 posted on 12/10/2006 4:31:30 PM PST by rogator
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To: rogator

Apparently, some people who call themselves conservative won't forgive him for saving Chile from Communism either...


345 posted on 12/10/2006 4:33:20 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: mbennett203
"Yes, they're people, very *bad* people that will happily stick you in a gulag..."
They are NOT people, but beasts in human shape, and are to be treated as such.
346 posted on 12/10/2006 4:35:22 PM PST by GSlob
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To: My Favorite Headache
Saddam Hussein fought communism and islamofascism, lets put him back in power. /s
347 posted on 12/10/2006 4:38:48 PM PST by omega4179 (Crush all Rinos 2008)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Saddam Hussein fought communism and islamofascism, lets put him back in power. /s
348 posted on 12/10/2006 4:38:51 PM PST by omega4179 (Crush all Rinos 2008)
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To: omega4179

Saddam Hussein fought neither.


349 posted on 12/10/2006 4:40:14 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: indcons

I'm not for democracy...I don't support mob rule. Hope that answers your question. Nor is the USA a democracy.


350 posted on 12/10/2006 4:43:28 PM PST by Diocletian (visit www.speakeasy.invisionzone.com - it's new and it's pretty silly)
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To: Melas
You first ask for specifics, then readily concede that it likely happened in some cases. If it happened in one case, that's too many. If it happened in one case, that's too many. As I told someone else in this thread, it only takes one murder to make you a murderer.

Your idealism is amusing, but ultimately naive and self defeating. By the same token you should join the far left in condemning the U.S. in every single war it has ever fought, because there's always been at least "one case" where some of our soldiers did something to civilians that we're not proud of. By your reasoning that makes the U.S. army "murderers," and renders all the good accomplished they've accomplished in every previous war moot.

351 posted on 12/10/2006 4:51:42 PM PST by lqclamar
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To: umgud
Are you sure you're not thinking of "Pinot Grand Enwick", the cause of all the trouble.


352 posted on 12/10/2006 4:57:27 PM PST by reg45
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To: GodGunsGuts

I would certainly buy that argument if Pinochet had either stepped down or anounced elections with himself as a candidate. However, he did neither after deposing Allende's communists and continued to rule as a dictator for 26 more years (during which thousands more were put to death without even a show trial).

Unfortunately, many murdered inluded people who were not communists but were merely against Pinochet's one-man rule.


353 posted on 12/10/2006 4:57:31 PM PST by indcons (FReepmail indcons to get on/off the Military History ping list)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Not a shady dictator for starters....


354 posted on 12/10/2006 4:58:59 PM PST by My Favorite Headache ("Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead, Head-On...Apply Directly To The Forehead")
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To: My Favorite Headache

ping


355 posted on 12/10/2006 5:05:13 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: My Favorite Headache

Would you also be opposed to a key figure in the Venezuelan military overthrowing and killing Hugo Chavez and his merry band of Communist thugs?


356 posted on 12/10/2006 5:14:02 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Alter Kaker
We should oppose totalitarianism of all stripes, whether it's militarist, Islamist, fascist, Communist or anything else. Allende and Pinochet were both bad.

I have to disagree with you here. Trying to lump Pinochet with other non-communist dictators such as Saddam Hussein or Hilter is dead wrong. Pinochet was neither AND he voluntarily stepped down from power after it was all said and done.

I wasn't there and neither were you. You are conveniently forgetting that Allende was democratically elected to power. Just putting your head in the sand and passively denying an impending disaster is absolutely the worst thing you can do... government takeover of all personal property, zero respect for individual rights and mass executions to maintain power.

In so many words, you can oppose totalitarianism all you want but you will be among the first to be executed when a hypothetical country that you reside in turns communist.

Why? Because you disagreed with them...

357 posted on 12/10/2006 5:15:47 PM PST by John123 (As a tribute to Red, I will light a cigar for every game the Celtics win this season...)
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To: Rodney King
Allende was elected with less than 40% of the vote. He then proceeded to confiscate property and try to bring about a Castro style revolution to Chile and then the rest of South America. Being elected, of course, does not give one unlimited rights. Allende ignored congress and the supreme court. Both asked the military to restore order to Chile. Pinochet answered the call. He single handedly saved South America from communism and the likely millions of deaths that would have resulted. That he did so at a cost of roughly 2,000 communists dead is a testament to his humanity. After gaining power, he brought about free market reforms, and when the communist threat passed, he voluntarily stepped down and handed a democracy to the Chilean people.

He's a hero in my book. Also, during his tenure, he was more popular than Pres. Carter (I read that in "Human Events").

358 posted on 12/10/2006 5:16:02 PM PST by Stepan12 (Mark Steyn: "We are all spaniards now.")
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To: My Favorite Headache

How about an a military overthrow and killing of Fidel Castro and his Communist dictatorship. Stalin? Mao? Uncle Ho? Pol Pot? Ortega?


359 posted on 12/10/2006 5:16:50 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: lqclamar

Pinochet was OK. He saved his country, at least for while. Like many heroes, he was inadequately appreciated. If he had been like the "heroes" of the left, he would have surpressed his opponents harshly, and thereby would have gained the respect of people like Jimmy Carter (the admirer of Castro, Chavez, and -- for all we know -- Mugabe).

The persecution of Pinochet shows the nature of the communistis and the hypocritical liberals (pardon the redunt expression). He had courage, though. I forgive him for being slightly rough on some opponents, most of whom received less than they would have dealt out to others, had they had the chance.

Where can I get a nice picture of Gen. Pinochet to hang on the heroes' wall of my office?

May he rest in peace.


360 posted on 12/10/2006 5:18:54 PM PST by docbnj
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