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San Francisco fights over its character **BARF ALERT**
Associated Press ^ | JUSTIN M. NORTON

Posted on 12/09/2006 4:23:23 PM PST by Kitten Festival

SAN FRANCISCO - An effort to clean up some of the city's seedier neighborhoods and rid the streets of junkies, hookers and runaways has run headlong into San Francisco's free-to-be-who-you-are ethos.

Nearly four decades after the Summer of Love, residents and merchants frustrated with what they regard as blight are turning to the city for help or taking revitalization into their own hands.

But other residents of the Tenderloin district and Haight-Ashbury contend a crackdown would rob their neighborhoods of their identity and violate everything San Francisco stands for.

Joey Cain, a board member of the Haight-Ashbury Neighborhood Council, complained that those who would drive the vagrants from the neighborhood are turning their backs on the Haight's "historic obligation" to shelter the downtrodden.

This is, after all, the city that proved so appealing to the Beats, the hippies and practically every other brand of noncomformist.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: bums; california; crime; filth; leftists; liberlland; sanfrancisco; sanfransickovalues; sf
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To: jagrmeister
Americans get to see close up San Fransicko values in Congress next year. Sodom By The Bay.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

21 posted on 12/09/2006 11:26:44 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Savage Beast
The tourist sights are incredible. Trust me though, I couldn't afford to live there. Housing is uber-expensive.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

22 posted on 12/09/2006 11:29:48 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MinorityRepublican

A huge percentage out in the Richmond district, and Sunset district. And most are ILLEGALS with anchor babies.


23 posted on 12/10/2006 1:45:11 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (http://community.livejournal.com/_2008_repubpres/profile)
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To: A message

LOL! I remember when anarchists on the Haight did some illegal things to chain stores. And that horrible drugstore on Haight Street (Upper Haight) which fought tooth and nail to keep any drugstore chain out.


24 posted on 12/10/2006 1:47:01 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (http://community.livejournal.com/_2008_repubpres/profile)
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To: roadcat

I've seen the homeless doing it on Market Street, and The Gays doing it in the bushes in the park. Buenavista Park in the Haight is where there are hustlers, but because of the Gay Agenda, the city looks the other way.

And the windmills in the GG Park. Again, the Gay Agenda rules, and looks the other way. White liberals get disgusted, but, have conflicts with their liberalism about things like that.


25 posted on 12/10/2006 1:49:31 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (http://community.livejournal.com/_2008_repubpres/profile)
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To: jagrmeister

We finally left. In June.

I'm breathing a HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF!


26 posted on 12/10/2006 1:50:34 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (http://community.livejournal.com/_2008_repubpres/profile)
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To: Exton1

You're 100% right.


27 posted on 12/10/2006 1:51:21 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (http://community.livejournal.com/_2008_repubpres/profile)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

I can not stand Mayor Moron, and you're totally right. I don't know if you remember me, but we moved to Santa Rosa, and it's fantastic.


28 posted on 12/10/2006 1:52:21 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (http://community.livejournal.com/_2008_repubpres/profile)
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To: xowboy
Wonder how far Jaclyn plans to go in life living on kindness?

She's 25. Wait til she's 55, a druggie, sick and homeless and see how many people will toss her a quarter.

29 posted on 12/10/2006 1:58:15 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: goldstategop
Trust me though, I couldn't afford to live there.

I suppose homelessness is not an option? ;-)

30 posted on 12/10/2006 2:00:05 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: BunnySlippers
If they offer me a duplex and someone else pays the mortgage, I'll reconsuder San Francisco. Otherwise no can do.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

31 posted on 12/10/2006 2:09:31 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
The reason is, people pay them to stay. Every time you plunk money into their cup, you are paying them to stay. They may be homeless, but they're not fools. They're going to stay where they're being paid.

I'll never forget my first day in the bay area. The company flew me into SFO and put me up in a hotel on 8th and Market. Being a wide eyed Midwesterner I took a walk the first night several blocks down Market and back to take in some sights. I was panhandled at least 5 times. One of those panhandlers I gave $5.

When I returned to the hotel I stopped in the lobby bar and while talking to the bartender I told him what I did. The bartender became very serious and told me never do that again. He went on to say how many of the panhandlers can make 20,000- 25,000 dollars a year begging, tax free. Begging is a business in SF.

I've learned since then the best way to politely blow off a begger is say to them when panhandled, " I've already given to someone today." They'll leave you alone with that line.

32 posted on 12/10/2006 4:19:43 AM PST by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: roadcat

I'm complaining because it was Moron Newsom's campaign promise that he would do something to clean up the homeless situation. It was an empty campaign promise, as we have seen. With all these stories of bums relieving themselves publicly (uh, can't you freepers make your images a little less graphic?), maybe I'll call the mayor's office to complain.


33 posted on 12/10/2006 6:11:05 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband

Hi, yes, I remember you! I haven't seen your name in a long time. Congratulations on making it out of the city. < :D


34 posted on 12/10/2006 6:15:43 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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