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To: PhiKapMom
Ahhh,,,,I guess that you don't count the usual Rudy-apologists that watch these threads like a hawk and will answer right away (sorry, but just couldn't resist using your words there...lol).

I guess it's ok for 'those' usual suspects to be Rudy-apologists, but not for conservatives to make their case opposing him. Ahhhh,,,now I get it.

119 posted on 12/09/2006 6:29:57 PM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: stockstrader

Actually I have been making a joke out of how fast the anti-Rudy group gets to the threads or replies they don't like. I have been here long enough to see a pattern! They are much nicer then some of the Freepers in the past. We have honest disagreements but no flame wars. Been in those as well in the past.

BTW, I am a conservative going back to Goldwater and I support Rudy because of the leadership that he has shown. He has a backbone and is not kumbaya which means a lot to me! I am tired of 'compassionate conservatism' and 'kumbaya' both which irritate me to no end right now.

Have a hunch if more Freepers had observed our State House in the last session and some of the most idiotic bills that were debated, you would be feeling the same way. Infrastructure took a backseat to social issues even though our state was burning. With all the 'feel good' bills, they couldn't pass a budget and had to go in an extra session (where they got paid more money). Of course we are the State where the previous legislature gave a tax rebate which we had to claim on our income tax -- all of $90 and we had to pay extra tax! Took a ton of money to process and mail the stupid rebate but everyone took credit. This fiscal conservative has had it!

This past year in OK from the State House to the pro-life disruptors on campus to the threats made when a parade name was changed to holiday three parades ago but last year and this year it became a central issue it cost us statewide elections. How do I know about the threats? I received some of them after I dared say the name of the parade didn't make any difference as we were putting Christmas back in the parade with our float. All the threats were from the self-identified, religious right,'social' conservatives some who taught at the Christian school and were nasty with their comments. Told my daughter who answered the phone to get on the next boat back to Italy because her ilk are not wanted here. These people go to church every Sunday, send their kids to a Christian school, and were some of the nastiest people I have ever dealt with and I know who they are and who was behind them. Those are only a few of the low lights of the last two year. Try getting a virus sent to your computer several times a day for almost a month until it was turned over to the authorities.

After being involved with these people for the last two years as a party official, I do not want a social conservative as our candidate for President or we are going to take a beating because of their temperment and 'my way or no way' which is worse then I ever thought it could be. When you observe it up close and personal, it paints a whole different picture and it is not a pretty one.

I am pro-life personally but after the past two years you will NEVER find me shoving it at anyone. What I have witnessed made me stop and think the damage that has been done and how some people who would become pro-life won't because of the irrational behavior of some people getting right in their face. Those people on campus cost us votes in the 2006 election. You have to change people's hearts and calling them all kinds of names when don't even know them isn't the way to do things.


120 posted on 12/09/2006 8:02:55 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( Go Sooners! Big 12 Champions! Rudy 2008)
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