Posted on 12/08/2006 2:36:29 PM PST by Uncledave
Ok that's good to know, but it puts him at odds with me on a whole host of issues, ones that I can not vote for a Non-Reaganite on..Including Abortion, homosexuality, Guns, Etc... and he will have the power to sign and propose (at least figuratively) legislation!
This is why I'm against him
I bet our troops in the field see a difference. As do our enemies.
What a silly MSM tactic.
The 'Rudy or Hillary' big-lie caucus.
If there is a significant segment of the population who would vote for "anyone BUT Hillary", why not play to that group with a conservative candidate and bring the winning crew back under the tent instead of alienate principled conservatives and lose?
No matter how liberal the Republican candidate, no one is going to win over the hardened, true-believer Hillary group, anyway, just alienate a large fraction of the base--our base.
So why not learn from the fact that with a couple of hard-won, targeted exceptions (i.e. Santorum), the Democrats took Congress' swing seats on the basis of seeming more conservative in the critical weeks running up to election day '06 when most voters start to pay attention.
Maybe we could have a 'Rudy' forum, sort of like 'chat', where all the cheerleaders could practice.
I am a conservative Republican who was born in New York City -- I now live about a half mile from where I was born -- and I can say without hesitation that Giuliani was the single best mayor of my lifetime. And I've lived through Wagner, Lindsay, Beam, Koch, Dinkins and now Bloomberg. Giuliani is not a flaming liberal. He may not consider himself a conservative, but anyone whose policies have Upper West Siders calling him a fascist gets my vote.
I'll vote for McCain if I have to.
I voted for Arnold for crying out loud.
I just hope to God I don't have to.
The Republican party needs a simple reboot.
Clear out the noise and back to what people sent them there to do in the first place.
My first vote ever cast was for Reagan. I have voted Republican ever since. I am not thrilled with any of the names out there right now. I abhor democrats. Nothing will EVER convince me to vote for them. But we can do far better then McCain or Rudy.
Where are the conservative Governors?
Where are the modern Reaganites?
Has it been so long?
Your point is well taken. As a life long NYer I too have seen Rudy first hand and close up.
You can know a man by his enemies. Look who is against Rudy and screaming the loudest : Norman Siegel and the ACLU, terrorist lovers and Arafat supporters etc.
Before dismissing a strong candidate like Rudy, people should at least take a good look, and find out what he actually believes, and where he wants to take the country, instead of relying on the left wing MSM to define him.
Absolutely! It's McCain who is the Dems' favorite Republican, not Rudy. The Dems HATE Rudy.
Rudy Giuliani is almost precisely what I've been VOTING AGAINST for 40 years. If I have been manuevered into a situation where he is a viable choice, all that tells me is that freedom has as many enemies here, as it does abroad. I won't play the game, any more.
You don't get to redefine the terms in this debate. RINO is for those that sport an "R" by their name, when their politics are RAT! Those pushing these RINO's didn't learn much in '06, so I suspect you'll need some more learning in '08. It's your call! Blackbird.
Very pragmatic, even conservative in your evaluation.
The great conservative scholar Kirk taught that "politics is the art of the possible".
And it is certainly true that conservatism runs through many aspects of a conservative's life, not just politics. Is "intractability" conservative? Perhaps not.
Conservative forces preserve a culture, and even preserve a nation, when they practice sensible politics by conserving their gains, not just making a "grand valiant gesture."
McCain is our next Nixon.
Some one show me one of our vetted guys that can blossum to a winner in the next 120 days.
Make me believe it! Make me believe that he wants it and has the skill to get it.
Until then, this fellow has my grudging support.
LOL! One would think that someone at the wedding would have caught that.
LOL! FYI -- RINO stands for Republican in Name Only. A lot of folks on here have been called RINO's including myself. I have been a hard working member of THE Republican Party a long time before the people calling names even thought of being Republican.
Those that only use a keyboard to call other Republicans names to push their agenda, don't have a clue!
Spend more time out working in races and a lot of you might change your mind at just who are the RINO's. Trust me it isn't the people do the work for THE Republican Party. NOTE it is not the Republican Conservative Party, it is THE Republican Party.
Another liberal Republican from NYCity falling down silly in support of Rudy for Prez. Why am I not surprised.
>>>>You don't get to redefine the terms in this debate. RINO is for those that sport an "R" by their name, when their politics are RAT! Those pushing these RINO's didn't learn much in '06, so I suspect you'll need some more learning in '08.
Correctamundo! The bullhorn antics of some RudyRinos is far out of step with the conservative agenda and sounds more like a promotion of liberalism.
Rudy offers conservatives nothing.
They sure are!
Ditto.
They are 100 percenters by the replies they make, and no 100 percenters are not persuadable.
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