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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Thursday December 7th
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 12-07-2006

Posted on 12/07/2006 8:49:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie

http://billroggio.com/archives/2006/12/the_military_and_the.php

The Military and The Media

The divide grows

FALLUJAH, IRAQ: I've completed the first leg of the journey to Iraq, after having moved through Dubai, Kuwait and Baghdad. I am now at Camp Fallujah. While in Fallujah, I'll embed with a Marine Police Transition Team (PTT) and also meet with the Civil Affairs Group. The next stop will be Ramadi.

The trip - from my front door to Fallujah - took 3 ½ days, accounting for the 8 hour time shift between the East Coast and Iraq. This is remarkable considering Iraq is a war zone. I spent all of 35 minutes in the Green Zone getting my ID badge and another two hours waiting for a flight to Fallujah. Most of the time was spent waiting at military airbases, trying to catch that next flight out on a plane or helicopter.

During my movement to Fallujah, I was on 3 bases and one camp: At Ali Al Salem (Kuwait), BIAP (Baghdad International Airport), Camp Stryker, and LZ Washington (inside the Green Zone).

The travel is long, and it can be boring if you let it get to you. But you're surrounded by a bunch of soldiers, Marines and contractors that are also traveling, many of them alone. They are either coming back from or going on leave, or moving into or out of the region. Most of them are quite friendly and happy to strike up a conversation. This is an interesting time to speak to them, because they are not as engrossed in the daily grind of Iraq as they are when I see them while I'm embedded. Here is a brief overview of some of the discussions I had with those I met while shuttling around Kuwait and Iraq.

Ali Al Salem:

At the transient tent (where you get to sleep and store your gear while waiting), I spoke to an Explosive Ordinance and Demolitions (EOD) contractor. These are the guys that blow up the leftover explosives and munitions from the Saddam era. He told me about how the media isn't telling the full story about the nature of the enemy, and specifically complained about the manipulation and distortion of the Kay report. He said he's run across bunkers and the equipment and chemical precursors to WMD buried in the deserts of western Iraq.

During a smoke break, an Army private discussed his time in Balad. He said mortars (which are blind-fired) are the greatest threat his unit faces. Not IEDs, I asked? Nope. While waiting to board the flight to BIAP, a Marine Major complained about how the progress in western Iraq has virtually gone unnoticed, and was furious over the characterization of the Devlin report on Anbar province. I gave him my card.

BIAP:

I had the pleasure being the only person on the shuttle bus from BIAP to Camp Stryker, and the driver, an Army specialist, struck up a conversation with me. I needed a SIM chip for my cell phone so I could call the States and in Iraq, so he took me across the base on some extremely bumpy roads looking for a place that sold them. During the drive, he explained his forays into Sadr City, how the residents were largely hostile to U.S. forces, and some engagements he's encountered. Yet he spoke admirably of the Iraqi people. He said they were hard working and willing to fight, and hoped we wouldn't abandon the Iraqi people.

We couldn't find an open store that sold the SIM chip, so he kindly offered to give me his as he knew I was desperate. I paid him for the card and a little extra to call home. He said he'll get a new card tomorrow.

Camp Stryker:

While waiting to catch the flight to the Green Zone, I spoke to two Army captains, one who works in Civil Affairs, the other with the Military Transition Teams. Both explained how the situation could look very different based on your job, but that the Iraqi police and Army were making real progress. They said the Iraqis' skills ranged from poor to excellent, but they always saw improvement.

I also overheard an Army specialist sitting behind me curse the media (and I mean curse), saying they didn't know what they were talking about when it came to Iraq. I talked to him, and explained I'm considered a reporter, and that I won't argue with his points. I made him uncomfortable. Had he known I was 'the press' I think he would have kept it to himself.

LZ Washington:

While waiting to manifest on the flight to Fallujah, CNN played a news segment of President Bush announcing there would be no “graceful exit” from Iraq, and that we'd stay until the mission was complete. Two sergeants in the room cheered. Loudly. They then scoffed at the reports from Baghdad, and jeered the balcony reporting.

In nearly every conversation, the soldiers, Marines and contractors expressed they were upset with the coverage of the war in Iraq in general, and the public perception of the daily situation on the ground. They felt the media was there to sensationalize the news, and several stated some reporters were only interested in “blood and guts.” They freely admitted the obstacles in front of them in Iraq. Most recognized that while we are winning the war on the battlefield, albeit with difficulties in some areas, we are losing the information war. They felt the media had abandoned them.

During each conversation, I was left in the awkward situation of having to explain that while, yes, I am wearing a press badge, I'm not 'one of them.' I used descriptions like 'independent journalist' or 'blogger' in an attempt to separate myself from the pack.

What a terrible situation to be in, having to defend yourself because of your profession. I've always said that the hardest thing about embedding (besides leaving my family) is wearing the badge that says 'PRESS.' That hasn't changed. I hide the badge whenever I can get away with it.

This isn't the first time I encountered this sentiment from the troops. I experienced this attitude from the Marines while I was in western Iraq last year, and the soldiers in the Canadian Army in Afghanistan also expressed frustration with the media's presentation of the war.

Perhaps this tension between the media and the military is nothing new. But it appalls me none the less.


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KEYWORDS: apocalypto; arealconservative; kingoftalkers; rushlimbaugh; talkradio
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Oh god forbid!


101 posted on 12/07/2006 9:37:58 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: angcat
I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone. This report is madding.
102 posted on 12/07/2006 9:40:58 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: hattend

Really!

You too?


103 posted on 12/07/2006 9:41:19 AM PST by guinnessman
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Of course, if we were talking about Dr. Williams and wife, Mrs. Williams would be doing the shovelling.

Hope she liked the shovel Walter bought her!


104 posted on 12/07/2006 9:41:25 AM PST by UKRaddell (I might be movin' to Montana soon)
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To: UKRaddell

LOL.


105 posted on 12/07/2006 9:41:58 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: UKRaddell

Last year said he was getting her shoe cleats so that when she was outside scraping the ice off HIS car, that she wouldn't slip and fall. A very considerate man, is Mr. Williams.


106 posted on 12/07/2006 9:42:36 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Did you hear Baker saying that the report is meant to be implemented in its' entirety and not cherry picked?

This is a total setup of Bush--Any of the ISG recommendations that are not implemented will be used as weapons against Bush.

What a betrayal.


107 posted on 12/07/2006 9:42:47 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: rottndog
Baker basically said Bush could wipe his A** with the report if he wanted.
108 posted on 12/07/2006 9:43:52 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And I think he will!


109 posted on 12/07/2006 9:44:37 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: rottndog

Exactly and he should!


110 posted on 12/07/2006 9:45:55 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: rottndog

BOR was drooling over this report. He called Baker and his team "intellectual giants; and that Bush should do what they say.


111 posted on 12/07/2006 9:45:58 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It's a typical mess of "process" over outcome. All that matters is the process. It keeps folks like Baker and Hamilton employed. We must have meetings, and summits, and conferences (in nice resort areas of course!.)

Paid for by the taxpayers of the U.S.A of course.

The enemy must be rolling on the floor laughing at this garbage.


112 posted on 12/07/2006 9:46:50 AM PST by PogySailor (Media bias? What media bias)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Says a lot about BOR.

But nothing we didn't already know about him.


113 posted on 12/07/2006 9:47:16 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: guinnessman

You too?

Cheers! [clink] and Happy Birthday!


114 posted on 12/07/2006 9:47:26 AM PST by hattend (Carpe Macaca)
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To: PogySailor

Iraq: Fighters welcome report that advises withdrawal of US troops

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1749898/posts


115 posted on 12/07/2006 9:48:11 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27; rightwingintelligentsia

I like the way the good Doctor always then talks about how lucky she is to have him.

On the subject of Baker's report; it hasn't got much play in the news here so far (we have ANOTHER Diana inquest here to occupy ourselves with), but I did hear Chris Hitchens giving it an almighty slagging off on Hugh Hewitt yesterday.

Thought it was interesting that W made of point of mentioning that he and Tony would be "considering" rather than "implementing" the recommendations.


116 posted on 12/07/2006 9:48:22 AM PST by UKRaddell (I might be movin' to Montana soon)
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To: hattend

Thank you!

Happy Birthday to you as well!


117 posted on 12/07/2006 9:49:17 AM PST by guinnessman
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To: Enterprise

I turned on Rush about fifteen minutes late-what did he say about Apocalypto?
Thanks!!


118 posted on 12/07/2006 9:49:27 AM PST by brigada
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To: PogySailor

You know the worst thing I heard on the news last night was Panetta saying that the ISG report is the LAST chance for Iraq. I wanted to reach through the TV and strangle the guy. What a complete IDIOT!!!


119 posted on 12/07/2006 9:49:33 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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Consensus is the absence of leadership...
120 posted on 12/07/2006 9:50:56 AM PST by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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