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NASA telescope sees black hole gulping remote star
Reuters ^ | Tue Dec 5, 7:18 PM ET | By Will Dunham

Posted on 12/06/2006 7:58:30 AM PST by Redcitizen

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To: Pox
That radiation theory isn't exactly carved in stone either, and is currently under scrutiny because of other discoveries. I don't know all the gobbledygook on the subject, but there are articles that have been written recently on the subject if you are interested in that sort of stuff.

Using questionable theory to produce even more theory is silly. Keeps one busy I suppose, like a dog that chases his tail. The same questions get to be reanswered over and over again.

61 posted on 12/06/2006 9:30:03 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Redcitizen
Here is a detailed image from the NASA telescope!


62 posted on 12/06/2006 9:30:11 AM PST by One_American
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To: Redcitizen


"Stupid hungry black holes..."
63 posted on 12/06/2006 9:33:21 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: fish hawk
A dormant black hole is one that is in between meals.

Oh, like Rosie O'Donut.

64 posted on 12/06/2006 9:34:45 AM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Redcitizen
Ummm! Tastes just like chicken!
65 posted on 12/06/2006 9:35:37 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Nathan Zachary

True, and that in turn causes a 'refinement' in theories and mathematical models.

Our knowledge of the universe is only at the 'kindergarten' stage, and the more we learn, the more questions arise from that knowledge.


66 posted on 12/06/2006 9:36:13 AM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: colorado tanker

oprah and michael richards?


67 posted on 12/06/2006 9:42:56 AM PST by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day...)
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To: Conan the Librarian
"Until the ingoing matter crosses the event horizon, the gravitation effects would be pulling and tugging on the star, stretching it like a strand of spaghetti. Besides that, the gravity would also slow down the light coming from the area, thus shifting the light into the red end of the spectrum."

Jupiter(?) stretches out comets like speggetti all the time, that's why it's known as a comet killer. As a comet approaches any large bodys' gravitational field, it accellerates, this would "shift' it's light to the red end of the spectrum as well. There is nothing to say that these observed events aren't simply smaller stars passing near larger bodies we can't see, speeding up as they enter their gravity field and getting pulled apart. In fact if one of these objects passes behind one of these large bodies, it would look as if it was ate up.
And while black hole theory is worked to fit spiral shaped galaxies, it doesn't fit those that aren't. These odd shaped galaxies shouldn't exist, but they do. Excuse me for not using the correct terms, But I think you know what I'm talking about. I don't pay a whole lot of attention to this stuff, just in passing.

68 posted on 12/06/2006 9:46:48 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: wayne_b24

No soup for you!


69 posted on 12/06/2006 9:50:39 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: samson1097

I bookmarked your second-best animation ever.

That begs a timid question, What is the best-ever?


70 posted on 12/06/2006 9:56:41 AM PST by Sundog (11/2/06 has come and gone, now the Age of Sarcasm is upon us.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

About not being able to see a black hole...

Well, one cannot normally see the wind either,
but the effects it has on other objects is
very observable....JJ61


71 posted on 12/06/2006 9:57:32 AM PST by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: One_American

That is one huge hamburger. Where is that from?


72 posted on 12/06/2006 10:19:32 AM PST by Redcitizen (My other OmniMech is a Masakari)
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To: Tenacious 1

"[What the heck is a "dormant" black hole. It either is or isn't a black hole I would think and once it's a black hole it stays a black hole.]

I thought the same thing. I am trying to picture a dormant tornado or hurricane. How does this work?"

A black hole that is not currently (or when viewed) pulling in any mass from outside to inside the vent horizon.

It is easy to infer the existence of a black hole, cygnus x-1, IIRC, is a good example. You have a star orbiting around in a tight orbit, clearly affected by a very dense, but unseen object. Nothing known could have that much mass (mass which is evident by it's effects on the orbiting bright star) except a black hole.

A star would just orbit around in a circle out in space for no reason, that type of motion infers a very, very dense, unseen object which has that start gravitationally locked in. Were that star to nudge close enough to the black hole, it too would pass the 'point of no return' and eventually get pulled inside the event horizon.


73 posted on 12/06/2006 10:26:22 AM PST by Bones75
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To: Bones75

Ugh, so many typos in that post... :(

Hey mods, how 'bout that "Edit" feature...


74 posted on 12/06/2006 10:28:05 AM PST by Bones75
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To: Sundog

The best flash animation ever (at least, my favorite):

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html

This animation is made by Hitachi in the style of school house rocks. This is a substantially nerdier animation explaining perpendicular storage on hard drives. That was a recent breakthrough to store up to 10 times more information on a hard drive. Hope you enjoy.


75 posted on 12/06/2006 11:10:52 AM PST by samson1097
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To: samson1097

Enjoyed it very much.

(I've sold lots of software to Hitachi to design chips. They are a good customer.)


76 posted on 12/06/2006 1:22:26 PM PST by Sundog (11/2/06 has come and gone, now the Age of Sarcasm is upon us.)
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To: ASA Vet

Thanks for the ping. :-)


77 posted on 12/08/2006 12:04:18 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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