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New York City first in U.S. to ban artificial trans fats in restaurant food.
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Posted on 12/05/2006 8:32:43 AM PST by Smogger

New York City first in U.S. to ban artificial trans fats in restaurant food.

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KEYWORDS: 2muchgovernment; newyork
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To: 70times7
Ahh - good. So as long as long as there is no physical harm rape is a-ok.

A rape is harm.

Don't be such a brick.

What harm is caused by me not wearing a seatbelt?

121 posted on 12/07/2006 6:13:41 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
If there is no physical harm then the harm must be mental. Golly, where to draw the line? If I'm offended by you calling me a brick then you have violated your own laws now haven't you? You want to split hairs but get ticked when the same is handed back. Tisk tisk. Name calling is such a weak argument.

For the record, I have no problem with you not wearing a seat belt. I look at it the same way as I do motor and bicycle helmets - those who do not wear them have noting to protect anyway. I always wear a seatbelt, and always did so long before the law; a law to demand it is irrelevant to me. If you want to gather support round up the hookers, drunks, druggies and pervs to rally round your issue of eroded freedom. They will empathize. I will not. Willful ignorance of the our system of government's requirement for self restraint and responsibility is a big part of what has brought on this nanny state. So those who want to piss into the wind can go right on exercising there right to do so until it is outlawed.

122 posted on 12/07/2006 7:13:01 PM PST by 70times7 (Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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To: 70times7
Willful ignorance of the our system of government's requirement for self restraint and responsibility is a big part of what has brought on this nanny state. So those who want to piss into the wind can go right on exercising there right to do so until it is outlawed.

Finally got you to admit it.

To quote the great Walter E. Williams - "This is not a problem associated with Liberty. It is a problem associated with Socialism."

Tyrants come in all sizes and flavors.

Those who advocate or tolerate tyranny are no better than those who implement it.

Carry on. My children or grandchildren will eventually stop you.

123 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:10 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Wow, you sure got me there. Kudoos to you. Now run along and work on your reading comprehension. Jeez.


124 posted on 12/07/2006 7:50:36 PM PST by 70times7 (Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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To: elkfersupper

BTW, Discussions like this are the reason for my tagline.


125 posted on 12/07/2006 7:55:31 PM PST by 70times7 (Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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To: 70times7
Now run along and work on your reading comprehension.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

Now run along and work on your Socialist utopia.

What would you like to ban next?

126 posted on 12/07/2006 7:55:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: 70times7
Discussions like this are the reason for my tagline.

Maybe you should "restrain" yourself from being so clever.

That way, we won't have to employ government guns to do it for you.

127 posted on 12/07/2006 8:04:04 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
Dear lord, you are dense. I don't want a nanny state of government, I hate it. Go back to 108 and read again what you didn't comprehend the first time. I maintain as I have all along that the reason we have one is that people have failed to restrain themselves. (Your response? “no thanks”).

Let me use what I wrote w/ regard to another issue where there are concerns of misdirected legislation; pit bulls:

There is no easy way to deal with irresponsible owners. In a free society there is enormous foundational responsibility to behave properly. The subversion of the standard provided by scripture to the ”me first - screw you” mentality has changed the application of law to our present nanny state system; children do not act responsibly and need a "nanny". So how to apply the law? Aye, there is the rub; because as satisfying as heavy punitive laws can be, they do not bring back a dead kid. So what is left? Ban the breed.

Do I advocate that solution? Of course not. Is that what we will get from legislators who will be more than happy to load restrictions on a situation that the public demands a solution for? Of course it is.

Concentrate, now…We have a press and a legislature that, even on the R side has a heavy dose of arrogance and elitist attitude. We have what sure seems to be an ignorant public that can be easily swayed by lies, sound bytes and half truths. They think Condoleeza Rice is competition for Uncle Ben. Many in our society have grown irresponsible and childish. And then they wonder why the government is growing oppressive. You want to fight tyranny? Fight the tyranny of stupidity. Based on our exchange I sure can recommend a starting point.

128 posted on 12/07/2006 8:26:31 PM PST by 70times7 (Sense... some don't make any, some don't have any - or so the former would appear to the latter.)
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To: 70times7
Okay, you're too smart by half.

Rather than fight a trans-fat ban or a smoking ban, or a Twinkie ban as they come up, you would rather just accept those things as a manifestation of stupid, and thereby encourage more stupidity; hoping that society will eventually get it right through legislation or repeal of legislation?.

All the while, the legislation goes on, fueled by hysteria or other motivation.

Sorry, I won't "restrain" myself out of fear that someday there may be a law against ribeyes.

129 posted on 12/07/2006 8:50:11 PM PST by elkfersupper
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