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1 posted on 12/04/2006 8:01:49 AM PST by traviskicks
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2 posted on 12/04/2006 8:03:11 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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This is what you get when you let rats elect rats....

RAT CRAP.....folks....RAT CRAP


3 posted on 12/04/2006 8:09:40 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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I've long believed that both major parties want to be parental, the dems want to be the mommy and the pubs want to be the daddy. I wish we could get back to the idea that government is a necessary evil and the less of it we have the better.
5 posted on 12/04/2006 8:17:26 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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Today's soft paternalism is tomorrow's hard paternalism. Your 'voluntary' agreement will be soon be mandated through oppressive surcharges, insurance premiums, sin taxes and other forms of state coercion. And of course, a large bureaucracy will be needed to keep an eye on all this...


8 posted on 12/04/2006 8:28:04 AM PST by Give Piece A Chance
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This article? IN THE FRIGGIN NY TIMES? Hey, dopes, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PUSH DEMOCRATIC POLICIES, YOU @$$HOLES! When the government pays for healthcare, they want to know what you're eating, drinking, and smoking. That's why socialized medicine is the end of freedom in this country, period.


9 posted on 12/04/2006 8:29:21 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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Paternalistic laws aren’t very popular in this country.

What country is he refering too? In the USA I live in "paternalistic" laws are legion, backed up by people in uniform wielding guns. I suppose his focus is simply on laws regarding anal sex between consenting adults, not smoking, seatbelts, helmets, pot, gun ownership, hunting, canoeing, hair cutting, manicures, vacinations, etc. etc.

It seems pretty strange to see the NYT decrying the nanny state they so fervently support.

10 posted on 12/04/2006 8:31:29 AM PST by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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Our lovely Mike Bloomberg here in NY is one of the godfathers of paternalism.


11 posted on 12/04/2006 8:34:30 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Dhimmis better not be Dhummis!!!!------or else!!!)
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It's more than paternalism, it's also nanny state elitism. Liberals believe that the vast majority of us are too stupid to make good choices and that the elite educated class must take care of the rest of us by passing nanny state laws. Hypocritically they exempt themselves from these laws.

For example, RFK jr. and Al Gore harangue us about our energy wasting ways while flying around in private jets and using limousines.

15 posted on 12/04/2006 9:06:38 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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