Posted on 12/04/2006 6:58:29 AM PST by kellynla
Congress will approve an immigration bill that will grant citizenship rights to most of the 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the U.S. after Democrats take control next month, predict both sides on Capitol Hill. While Republicans have been largely splintered on the issue of immigration reform, Democrats have been fairly unified behind the principle that the illegals currently in the country should get citizenship rights without having to first leave the country.
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"I'm just appalled at a door to door sweep of Mexicans just because they're Mexicans."
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I must have missed that post on this thread where "someone" suggested that.
Please point it out.
LOL........I'm with you. All this talk about "teaching a lesson" has certainly sunk in with me; I've learned pretty damn quick who cares about this country and who only cares about themselves.
I hope the GOP has "learned" their lesson about dealing with the "blackmail vote" wing of our party.
So you don't mind having to show papers also?
You know full well what I'm talking about.
It's already moving past the stage of idle talk.
This is very confusing to me, among other things.
I was positive that "real, true" conservatives were against ANY kind of national ID.
How about you?
The funny part is that you and others here ASSUME to know how some of us voted.
I'm goin' big on lotto tickets Thursday night, can I borrow your crystal ball for a bit?
I'm sorry for misleading. I was being very sarcastic. Not at you, but at the fools that think the 'message" thing was a good idea.
I'm concerned, all right. This is an open thread on citizenship for 20+ million illegals, despite your attempts to stifle discussion by name-calling.
We got it! :-)
That's what I thought too
ok .. no problem
My big issue this past election was illegal immigration. However, I went against my better judgement, held my nose, and voted straight Republican. So, now I will say, if a bill passes, with Republican support, that gives amnesty or any automatic path to citizenship, Republicans will pay even bigger next time. It will be a cold day in hell before I vote Republican again.
No, but it's fascinating nevertheless.
I've already said that simply asking proof of legal residence in this country can be done away from front doors. One can make it much more difficult for an illegal to get a job, rent an apartment and use government services without significant infringement on the rights of legal residents. The trick is to make illegals want to self-deport. Just as it took years of neglect by Clinton for al Qaeda to fester, it took twenty years of poor enforcement and influence by corrupt business interests for this problem to develop. And it is a serious problem. Failing to drive illegals out through some rather basic measures, and instead rewarding them for being here illegally will just make more want to come here - especially with the leftism sweeping Central and South America (with economic decline close behind).
We HAVE TO GET SERIOUS NOW. Unfortunately, I doubt we will. The GOP took their mandate to use their power wisely to fight the war and pi**ed it away with their infatuation over pork and power. With their nomination of Lott to be Senate whip, they have shown they would rather defend a smaller slice of the pig than to reform - so they will be easy pickings for those who wish to further prolong the illegal immigration issue.
Which means that when the crackdown does come, it will be more draconian than what Eisenhower did - just as the Europeans will end up being quite draconian with the Islamists in their midst.
Of course, I thought "real, true" conservatives were against the government butting into people's business and people's bedrooms, but, as we've seen over the past few years, as long as it's THEIR views and beliefs, some people on here are F I N E with using the government to implement them.
Tell me, Mr. Conservative, just where IS the appropriate place to do that?
I don't need a national ID to prove I'm a citizen. I have both a birth certificate and a passport. My wife has the former. Last I checked, a birth certificate was issued by states.
Why is it fascinating, because you've realized that you don't understand the written English language?
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