Posted on 12/03/2006 6:08:47 AM PST by senna
Keith Ellison, who will become the first Muslim member of Congress next month, has offended some conservatives with his plan to use the Quran during his ceremonial swearing-in.
The decision by Ellison, D-Minn., to use the Muslim holy book for the ceremony instead of the Bible triggered an angry column by Dennis Prager on the Web site Townhall.com this week.
Headlined, "America, Not Keith Ellison, decides what book a congressman takes his oath on," Prager argued that using the Quran for the ceremony "undermines American civilization."
"Insofar as a member of Congress taking an oath to serve America and uphold its values is concerned, America is interested in only one book, the Bible," he wrote. "If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don't serve in Congress."
Conservative bloggers have picked up the criticism and run with it.
When will Muslims stand up and denouse that members of your religion are sworn to change non-Muslims or as your book puts it "Infidels" Is it not your mission to change non-Muslims into members of your religion? Or as this verbage from the REAL Quran puts it:
About Those Annoying Non-Believers (Infidels, Pagans, Jews, Christians, etc.)
Quran 9:123 murder them and treat them harshly Quran 3.28 Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.
NOTE: By guarding carefully, a Muslim should deceive the infidel. Acting as a friend is fine as long as it is to benefit the Muslim and protect Islam.
Quran 3:56 As for those disbelieving infidels, I will punish them with a terrible agony in this world and the next. They have no one to help or save them.
The above is from your book and should be known to all Americans and that is but one passage. If you believe youer religion is so peaceful then stand up to those that hate and want to destroy all non-Muslims. That should where you start Sir not trying to get people to believe the Quran is a peaceful book when it clearly is not. This is America and we have for 238 years sworn in our representatives with the BIBLE...I ask you Sir if I was in a Muslim country and I was voted in as a representative of the people would I be able to use the HOLY BIBLE as the book I was sworn in with? Never because first of all I never would be voted in and because our country is so free we have elected YOU but you have already angered us by asking to use the Quran.
The double standard is glaring and all Americans should know the true nature of the Quran shouldn't they? If it is so peaceful why don't you read the passage I have provided as proof of this so called peaceful book. I did not say holy book because the BIBLE is the only holy book. I have to ask why you and 99.9% of all Muslims never tell the truth about the Quran there is a reason for that isn't there Mr. Ellison?
Why are not telling the truth when it is so apparaent that your book is violet and against everything the BIBLE stands for. My religion is peaceful and I can prove that by reading any part of it on a personal, you can not say the same Sir. So I implore you to tell the truth about the watered down Quran that is passed off as the true Quran , you should start your first as a representative in the USA by telling the truth about the Quran and tell all Americans about the true nature of your book.
If I had the power to stop you from using your book I would without hesitation but I can't but I will do everything I can to bring the truth to all Americans that the Quran is not what it is professed to be, that I can do and I will. I do congratulate you on your victory even though I know it will not be good for this country unless you tell the truth and starting the very first day at your swearing in using your BOOK is a negative even before you get started.
What message does this make to those that do not know the true nature of your so-called holy book? The American people need to know the true nature of the Quran and will.
Unfortunately for this story no book of any sort is used at congressional swearings in. The new congresscritters stand, en mass, and raise their right hands.
The above is a letter I wrote to Mr Ellison about using the Quran at his swearing in. I think this totally against what our country stands for and he is starting out on a very negative note by requesting this change of not using the bible. Most Americans do not know that the version of the quran sold in the USA is a watered down version that leaves the violet and what I call evil parts of the quran. I want to know why muslims will not tell the truth about this. Our children are exposed to a watered down version that is not the TRUE quran but a version meant to deceive, is that what we would do with our Bible? No we would not because our holy and the only HOLY book is what it is. I implore everyone that agrees with me to write Mr Ellison to protest this action because if the table were turned we would niot be able to use the BIBLE in a swearing in any muslim country obviously we would never be voted in. He is clearly using our total freedom to go against the grain and I for one am totally opposed to it.
Oh, don't let the truth get in the way of a good rant....
What real difference does it make what he takes his oath on?
He, like 99% of the rest of them will not honor it anyway.
If the guy wants to use a Koran, fine, but it'll put a bulge in his coat pocket the rest of the day and deform the threads making him look seedy before his time.
What's important is that we not allow the Quakers to require their member of Congress to also be a Quaker (hence the "no religious test" standard in the Constitution.)
I, Loyal Citizen of the Republic, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
Has Pelosi agreed to another private swearing in with the Koran?
The Constitution and the Oath to defend it, and the Quran are at odds with each other. The Congressman from Minnesota will either be a very BAD Muslim deserving Islamic punishment or death, or a very BAD Congressman deserving punishment and removal.
Since our nation was founded by individuals who were Bible believing men, when the Constitution was written, it was written in light of the Scriptures, thus no conflict.
(If both documents interpreted correctly)
Would any elected official be allowed to take their oath on the Torah in say, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, etc.?
This is what happens when people stay home. period.
This is what happens when people vote like zombies on such stealth names just because it has a D.
Get used to it folks, the religious books will be forbidden entirely in a few elections.
In fact I am surprised the ACLU has not sued on this yet. (they need those attorney fees)
Is this legal?
What's the problem? Since he is Muslim he can use the Bible and taq'qiyah. < sp? >
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Does anyone have a link to the "complete" Quran senna is talking about? I never knew until today that there's an expurgated version floating around for making nice-nice with Americans.
That is my point if I was in a Muslim country I wouldn't be allowed to use the BIBLE at a swearing "Getting elected would never happen anyway"
What bothers me is that he wants to go against the grain and this to me sets a very negative presendent. This our country and I am tired of the "We don't want to offend anyone" attitude...To go against what we have used for 238 years is not what the process is all about in my eyes.
Sure wouldn't surprise me since they are permitted by their religion/god/ whatever to lie to infidels if it furthers the cause of islam. That would include deceiving the world about what it really syas, too.
Yeah, I shouldn't have been surprised, but I was.
I will start searching Amazon to find this version. If I find something that looks like the ticket, I'll post it.
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