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Gingrich Sees Dark Days Ahead for GOP
Human Events ^ | 12/1/6 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 12/01/2006 7:40:42 AM PST by ZGuy

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To: ZGuy
“Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich last night offered a grim outlook for the final two years of the Bush Administration, saying at best it would resemble President Gerald Ford’s administration... ”

In many ways... the defeat on November 7th returned us back to 1974. If no conservative agenda emerges from the ashes of that debacle between now and and the 2008 Primary... we'll come in second for the 2008 election.

41 posted on 12/01/2006 8:17:41 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: ConservativeDude

How about BobDole?


42 posted on 12/01/2006 8:17:56 AM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: MadIvan
Ivan, are you being deliberately obtuse? I don't care whether Bush followed his suggestion or not. The problem is that the man speaks about whatever is popular at the moment!

When everyone was clamoring for Katrina aid, he was all for it. 18 months later, he acts like he knew it would be a disaster and had nothing to say about it!

Come on! This is flip-flopping of the worst type, and he is doing it simply to make himself look superior to the President.

Please explain his parading around with Hillary talking national health care. Explain his sudden negativism about Iraq.

OPPORTUNIST!

43 posted on 12/01/2006 8:17:57 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: MadIvan

remember what happened to him...


44 posted on 12/01/2006 8:19:05 AM PST by PDR
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To: WalterSkinner

balderdash.... if you are going to base your analysis on those kinds of things then the country deserves what it gets.


45 posted on 12/01/2006 8:19:48 AM PST by PDR
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To: Republican Red

"He can't be faithful to his President, his party or his family."

Sounds suspiciously like the Republican Leadership in General, especially when it comes to it's conservative base.


46 posted on 12/01/2006 8:20:44 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: USS Alaska

perfect people rarely make great leaders...


47 posted on 12/01/2006 8:20:49 AM PST by PDR
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To: ZGuy

Since I don't believe that anyone in a leadership position will ever come right out and say, "islam is the enemy", I don't see what this "third campaign" stuff is all about. If we refuse to identify the enemy, we cannot win the war.


48 posted on 12/01/2006 8:21:23 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Common Tator

You know, you blast Newt every chance you get.... I beginning to think its personal with you. You offer up opinion and projection as facts but refuse to deal with the real issues. Who do YOU think is the leader America needs for the next eight years?


49 posted on 12/01/2006 8:22:45 AM PST by PDR
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To: Miss Marple
I'm not defending Newt - I'm just puzzled as to his incoherence.

No need to get snippy. :)

Regards, Ivan

50 posted on 12/01/2006 8:23:22 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: oceanview
"he is dead right about Rove."

- I cannot agree that the "evil genius" Rove has suddenly morphed into the designated scapegoat for the lack of Republican success in the last election.
In my books it was due mainly to the pathetic Republican leadership in both Houses. They lacked Newts forceful ability to herd cats that he showed when he was running things.
That fact, combined with the MSM, which kept up a constant barrage of negative and biased reporting that did it's best to distort issues and suppress Republican voter turnout was the second factor that effected the outcome.
Judging by the tone of most postings here, the MSM succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
51 posted on 12/01/2006 8:23:48 AM PST by finnigan2
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To: USS Alaska
Yep, dark days are coming, but I am the guiding light. If you screw around on your first wife, maybe you just made a mistake. When you screw around on your second wife, you have the character of bj and can't be trusted to be the President. Sorry newt, keep your day job of being the white-haired talking head.

 

 

Bill Clinton only wants to divorce his wife

on her deathbed.

Newt actually did it.

Vote Democrat family values. Vote Clinton in '08.

 

 

52 posted on 12/01/2006 8:24:46 AM PST by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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To: trisham

Thank You but he is too busy licking hillarys a-s


53 posted on 12/01/2006 8:25:19 AM PST by italianquaker (Democrats its time to fish or cut bait, no more blaming Prez Bush.)
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To: Miss Marple; MadIvan
So, at this point, you oppose a conservative like Newt Gingrich, but would favor a liberal like Rudy Giuliani, or as MadIvan calls him, "...we're waiting for it to be made "glorious summer" perhaps by the "son of *New* York"

Rudy maybe a son of New York, but he's also a liberal SOB!

Anyone who keeps advancing this notion of Rudy the Liberal for POTUS in 2008, is barking up the wrong tree. I'm not saying Newt has a good chance of getting the nomination. His baggage and personality upsets many. But Newt remains one of the best political thinkers and issue oriented conservative Republicans around. The Contract With America was no fluke. By any standards, the CWA was a success. 100% of the CWA was voted on by the House, 90% of it was passed by the House, and roughly 65% was signed into law by Clinton.

And what has Rudy Giuliani done? He was a liberal mayor of America's biggest liberal city. He reduced the city income tax by working with the socialist leaning city council. They abolished the 12.5% surtax on high incomes. Rudy cut the welfare rolls in half, but he also added 15,000 new teachers to the city employment rolls, increasing the membership of the AFT and NEA in the process. Rudy also left behind a projected $2-billion deficit and a $42-billion debt. Crime rates went down under Mayor Giuliani. Great. They were headed down under Mayor Dinkins too. They've dropped off even more under Mayor Bloomberrg. That doesn't mean I'll be voting for Dinkins or Bloomberg for Prez.

Rudy isn't the answer for Republican Party in 2008. Look at the GOP platform and tell us, what Rudy agrees with. Not using his current political rhetoric, but by gaging his political record as mayor. Rudy is pro-big government, pro-abortion on demand, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-gun control, pro-assault weapons ban, along with supporting special rights for homos and illegals. Rudy doesn't have a conservative bone in his body. Rudy is the Joe Lieberman of the GOP.

If Rudy somehow gets the nomination, it will fracture the GOP. A Democrat will be sitting in the WH come Jan.21, 2009.

54 posted on 12/01/2006 8:25:50 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: ZGuy

Personally, I don't like Newt Gingrich and don't think he should run. IMO, he's a loose cannon and we can do better.


55 posted on 12/01/2006 8:27:37 AM PST by Princip. Conservative
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To: ZGuy

Accurate assessment. Thank you no-shows.


56 posted on 12/01/2006 8:28:05 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: MadIvan
Well, I didn't intend to be snippy. I must tell you, though, that this promotion of Newt rubs me the wrong way, given that he let us down during impeachment and his weasel-like behavior over the last year.

Had he not been having that affair, perhaps he would have been more aggressive. In fact, I remember he swore that he was going to mention something (I believe it was the China technology sale) every day, and then suddenly clammed up. I believe the CLintons had information on his private life. Thus...he let us down.

His repeated failure to come to the President's defense has also been reprehensible, in my opinion. It demonstrates a lack of loyalty, and particularly in the Katrina case, his failure to place the blame where it belonged, with Blanco and Nagin, was really depressing.

57 posted on 12/01/2006 8:28:32 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: ichabod1

Oh, you must be looking for DU. Just google it, and with just a few clicks, you can be amongst your own kind.


58 posted on 12/01/2006 8:31:41 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: LS
in re.........."talk down" any success Bush might have in the last two years so as to make a "savior" necessary.....

If only Bush and his cohorts had the talent to "Talk Up" the administration's real success, we wouldn't be in this mess. Which is not to say that Newt is doing the right thing.

Talking Bush down only adds fuel to a fire that is only going to warm Democrats. Yeah GW is in zombie-land at the moment, but Newt is certainly not forced to point this out. And after all, what 8-year president didn't go on a long slide in his remaining "lame-duckness?"

59 posted on 12/01/2006 8:32:30 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Let us all gather together on the lawn to bid Karl Rove a fond, "¡ Adiós, amigo !")
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To: Reagan Man
No, I don't support Rudy. I don't support anyone, and it doesn't matter one whit what I think. Indiana's primary isn't until May, so my vote won't probably have any effect.

I will support whoever the nominee is, whether Romney, Guiliani, Tancredo, McCain, Pence, Perdue, Brownback, or whoever. I firmly believe that the democrats must not be allowed to control foreign policy or the military.

I simply am pointing out that Newt is quite willing to bend his principles and flip-flop on issues. Now you may think that's ok, but the fact is that he DID run around the country with Hillary and he DID advocate massive spending for the Gulf Coast.

If he is the nominee, I will vote for him.

60 posted on 12/01/2006 8:32:58 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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