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Pope hailed for praying toward Mecca like Muslims
Reuters ^ | December 1, 2006 | Philip Pullella and Tom Heneghan

Posted on 12/01/2006 7:10:53 AM PST by jan in Colorado

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To: quack
//and in the US,the dead are buried facing east as well.Old tradition,from the Bible,that the dead shall rise when Jesus returns from the east.

did you further know that in 1517 when the Turks conquered Jerusalem (under the leadership of Suleiman the "Magnificent"), they blocked in the eastern wall to Jerusalem. Then they put a cemetery in front of it.

They did that to try to prevent Jesus from coming again until they were ready. Suleiman consulted with his scholars that knew bible prophecy. They knew that Jesus would come again from the east so they blocked that wall. Then they made the cemetery because they thought that priests couldn't walk through cemeteries without becoming "unclean".

101 posted on 12/01/2006 8:44:45 AM PST by Nihil Obstat (viva il papa)
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To: Sacajaweau
Christian cemeteries are laid out with the head facing east to greet the morning sun. (I know...not always)

Not the morning sun,but THE SON.Christians are buried facing east in anticipation of the second coming.

102 posted on 12/01/2006 8:47:48 AM PST by quack
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To: tdewey10

Look at a globe and you will notice the Pope was facing in the general direction of Jerusalem and Bethlehem. Silly stupid Moo's.....


103 posted on 12/01/2006 8:48:54 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: jan in Colorado

If we could ask him, I wonder what Moses would say about this?


104 posted on 12/01/2006 8:49:09 AM PST by exnavy (God means love, not hate.)
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To: Tokra

The Grand Mufti is also know as the Grand Terrorist


105 posted on 12/01/2006 8:49:56 AM PST by KingArthur305
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To: mockingbyrd

This is much ado about nothing.


Well said!


106 posted on 12/01/2006 8:56:10 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Good point. Not only that, if indeed the pews and the church orient the congregation to facing east, since the Novus Ordo, the priest will be facing west towards the congregation.

And really, so what. I think God is more concerned with the status of our eternal souls. This is a muslim thing and I care not


107 posted on 12/01/2006 8:58:40 AM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

"If this Pope makes gestures like this, just think what the next one will do."

If this really is the end times, there won't be another Pope. There will be the anti-Pope, who will create and lead a non-Christian one world religion. (And no, it won't be Islam, either.)


108 posted on 12/01/2006 8:59:16 AM PST by piytar
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To: TheCrusader; HamiltonJay; CarrotAndStick; Leftism is Mentally Deranged; Rutles4Ever; ...
And it came about that while He was praying in a certain place, after He had finished, one of His disciples said to Him, "Lord, teach us to pray just as John also taught his disciples."
And He said to them, "When you pray, say: 'Father, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come.
Give us each day our daily bread.
And forgive us our sins, For we ourselves also forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.'
Luke 11:1-4

When Jesus was asked to teach the disciples to pray, nowhere do I read that Jesus told them to face a certain direction.

God is our Creator...we can face heaven,bow our head, stand,sit,knell,drive,ski,etc. It doesn't matter. HE hears us!

Rejoice always;
pray without ceasing;
in everything give thanks; for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
I Thessalonians 5:16-18

109 posted on 12/01/2006 9:01:11 AM PST by jan in Colorado ("Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: TheCrusader

Pope John Paul II may have some liberal leanings, but his suffering and his undying love of Christ, coupled with his willingness to travel anywhere and everywhere in service to Christ put the lie to comparing him to Bill Clinton. Please do not do that again, it's disgusting.


110 posted on 12/01/2006 9:01:20 AM PST by Romish_Papist
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To: Alas Babylon!

Until Vatican II, all altars were built so that the cogregation faced east. Churches are still supposed to be built that way.

It's not nonsense, it's our heritage.


111 posted on 12/01/2006 9:05:00 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: piytar

Some folks believe that B16 is the next to the last pope. According to a vision in 10 something by St. Malachi, he prophesied ACCURATELY since his time something about every succeeding pope. According to him, the next pope will be "Peter the Roman", whatever that means. Then the seat of Peter somehow will be destroyed, in Rome at least. It's a little foggy on what that means exactly too.

Oh well, I don't go by any of that, it's just weird about how this saint predicted something personal about each of the succeeding popes from his time on, to the last pope...


112 posted on 12/01/2006 9:05:05 AM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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To: exnavy
I wonder what Moses would say about this?

Hmmm...

That nothing has changed in all these years?

113 posted on 12/01/2006 9:05:17 AM PST by jan in Colorado ("Show me just what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: Romish_Papist
Above should read, "may have had some..." My apologies.
114 posted on 12/01/2006 9:05:46 AM PST by Romish_Papist
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To: jan in Colorado

I'm seriously considering putting into my will that I be buried face down with my ass facing mecca, and having that image engraved on my headstone with the caption "in deference to islam' etched below it.


115 posted on 12/01/2006 9:09:50 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: mockingbyrd

Not so in the Cathedral of Mary our Queen in Baltimore Maryland, in which the folks face west.


116 posted on 12/01/2006 9:10:31 AM PST by dmz
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To: Alas Babylon!

At Mass, in the vast majority of churhes, the cogregation faces east, therefore by default, you pray eastward. No where did I, or any one else, say it was dogma, it's a practice. I guess I should have figured that it was thrown out the window after Vatican II. It was a practice that I think was really cool.

It was all in context that praying eastward is not unique to Muslims. That's all.

And, BTW, I learned this fact studying for a Catholic trivia contest, by no means am I using it to attack the Pope or demean fellow Catholics.


117 posted on 12/01/2006 9:12:29 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: jan in Colorado

Yup ;^)


118 posted on 12/01/2006 9:16:27 AM PST by exnavy (God means love, not hate.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Surprise! Rooters Left out the FACT that the Vatican made it very clear that the Pope wasnt praying to Mecca he was "meditating" upon it.


119 posted on 12/01/2006 9:21:20 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Tokra

check out post 95, explains the Catholic tradition of the cogregation facing east. That's tradition not bizarre notion.


120 posted on 12/01/2006 9:24:22 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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